If Revis truly was the greatest player in Jets history, which I think there's an argument to be made there - what does that say about the value of the CB position given the Jets lost him and the team they just beat had him?
He's one player in his first game w/ a new team after sitting out a year. obviously CB is not as valuable as QB or a big time pass rusher but he didn't play as much as he would normally play, if he had maybe we don't win?
I don't think it says much, since he didn't seem 100%. He still made some head-turning coverage, but he was getting help at times and pulled himself out of the game in the late third quarter. Tampa wasn't able to just put him on any receiver they wanted to and forget about them.
Hard to debate anyone being better than Revis at a single position in Jets history. All the greats that have been named had bad games. Revis shuts down his WR every game. Even Sunday, Holmes only had 1 catch. Still, Revis is less valuable against teams like the Jets. We will see how he does against Drew Brees on Sunday.
The "Island's" good, damn good... But the avatar's the king of em' all ;-) "Agggh!....Uncle...I give!!!"
With all due respect, I don't think Revis is top 5 - not just yet. Maybe eventually, but for now, the "total careers" of Haynes, Barney, Adderley, Deion, Night Train (and maybe one or two others, e.g. Willie Brown ) I would put above Revis (for now).
All-time discussions are pretty futile because of the difference between eras in terms of training, film study and levels of receiver talent. There's no way to tell how well the corners of the past would do with today's availability of film, today's coaching and the far superior physical training. However, you also have to take into account that the receivers those guys were facing look like waterboys compared to the receivers in this era's game. Wasted argument.
don't forget how most of the rules favor the offense. revis is the best I have ever seen and that goes back to the early 80s. He's better than deion, Deion was a better playmaker once the ball was in his hands but as far as covering a WR no one has done it better than revis in my lifetime.
Have any other "A Football Life" shows been made about a current player who has only been in the league for 6 years (and played 5 years)? Isn't this incredibly premature? It is also premature to label Revis at this point. He has simply not played long enough. If he is not the same player as he was before the injury, how many great seasons did he have? Three? He missed 2012 and part of 2010 and when he played in 2010 after the holdout he was not the same player he was in 2009.
when he first came back in 2010 when he had the hamstring problem he was not the same, by midseason he was back to normal and as good or better than he was in 2009.
I didn't think they had a pro bowl then. They had something called all NFL which I thought was all Pro. After looking it up I see they did since the merger..oh wait Namath's merger.
Im def interested in watching this version of A Football Life. Revis is like no other. And on the subject. He looked damn good against the Jets in limited time.
All-NFL was all-pro. Klecko was first team all-pro at 2 different positions (DE and NT), and second team all-pro at a third position (DT), which is still pretty damn impressive.
I really wish I was old enough to have enjoyed the greatness of Klecko. I remember my family going nuts about him and my trying to appreciate him at a young age. I mainly remember thinking "they all love that big guy with the pig nose." I was younger than ten when he was a dominant player, and I regret it now, knowing how great he was. Out of guilt for that, I have spent a lot of time doing retro-player-appreciation for him, but I think we know that's not the same as seeing it happen live and knowing what it meant. He WAS a great player. I wish he would get that respect.
Why Klecko does not get HOF consideration is beyond me. I saw him play his entire career and he was tremendous. He was the best DL in football in the early 80s and was the best defensive player in the NFL in 1981. He was as good a pass rusher as Gastineau and played the run as well as anybody in the league. He was incredibly strong, particularly with his hands. He would throw offensive linemen aside like rag dolls at times. Then, after the knee injuries, he changed his game from being a dominant DE to being a dominant DT. How many NFL players can claim that in an era before specialization? I would love for someone from the HOF committee to explain why players like Cortez Kennedy and Howie Long and Jack Youngblood are in and Klecko is not.