We dont have good odds in any game withGeno starting. He is just not ready. Rex basically screwed us with that retard move in the Giants game. Look, the competition thing...was a Joke. They had an out in week 2 After Geno hurt his ankle. "well, Geno was havinga good camp, until the ankle thing, but its just bad timing, Mark needs the first half snaps against the Giants." Didnt take the out. Halftime v. The Giants "well, Geno is a rookie but he showed us some things. But what we need now is for Mark to get ready to face Tampa Bay..." Nope. Didnt take the out. Lets put him in behind a guy playing center for four days. Great Coaching Moments in Jets history.
HOBBES -- agree 100%. You think if it were truly up to Rex he never starts smith in that game. That came from the top down and it was a stupid decision. Game 3 is where you say it is time to prep for week 1 and Sanchez has shown he is so far ahead of smith it is his spot to run with. Just stupid and the Tamps game is a must win in week 1 with Atlanta and New England early. Week 1 could set the table for the entire season being worth watching or being a disaster
I like how week one is now a "must win" how ridiculous. If we lose the game we lose the game, relax. We're probably going to be losing a lot of games. And before all the Sanchez apologists chime in we were going to lose a lot of games with Sanchez starting as well. Hell, you Sanchez lovers should be happy it's shaking out this way. You've all completely convinced yourself that Geno is the worst QB ever to step on the field and that Sanchez is having some complete transformation into an elite QB. Well, if Sanchez is going to miss the first two weeks and Geno goes out there and embarrasses himself as you appear to expect (hope for?) then Sanchez can trot back onto the field and play lights out and be the hero that you are all so sure he is capable of being. If your biases are correct it helps Sanchez as if he started week one he would be on a very short leash and if he makes the mistakes that he always has in the past, you know, the ones you've convinced yourselves that he has scrubbed from his game despite TC and pre-season proving otherwise, then he'd be yanked and it would be Geno's team for the rest of the season no matter how bad he was being people would just say "well he's a rookie and the team itself isn't very good, look how they played with Sanchez."
Ive never viewed week 1 as a "must win", I think we will lose but I honestly think we are going to steal the game against New England. If not we are 0-2 and will be in a must win against the Bills.
Tampa Bay 34 Jets 13 Tampa Bay runs all over us, the Tampa Bay defense scores a touchdown. Vincent Jackson and Ogeltree eat away our secondary. Our offense struggles a lot to. I hope im wrong but this game will be lopsided.
I could see the Tampa game going either way to be perfectly honest and wouldn't be surprised. I could also see us taking the Pats game. It's entirely possible we start the season 3-0 or 0-3. That's why the game is played on the field and not on message boards on the Internet where everyone has apparently concluded one way or the other exactly what will happen. That being said I personally am predicting another 6 win season so if we start of 3-0 either my prediction is (happily) completely wrong or we only win 3 of our last 13 games which would be horribly depressing.
If I am the offensive coordinator....I would pull aside the following 3 guys in a private conversation: Geno Smith, Stephen Hill, Bilal Powell I'd tell them if we get the ball and Revis/Banks is on Hill.......I call for a good ol' Flea Flicker to start Geno's career and have Geno throw a bomb to Hill where you can get a TD right off the bat if Hill holds on(Which is half the struggle). Bucs will expect a running play on 1st down and will expect Geno to dink and dunk all game long and then you throw in this trick play and the game changes. Revis won't be quick enough to match Hill and will have to try and mess him up with the 5 yard cushion BUT when disguised as a run play, Revis may let up which will buy Hill time to run down the field and catch the bomb by Geno. You get the fans up, you have Revis stunned and you have Geno/Hill fired up and confident. I really hope we launch a flea flicker with the 1st play.
Bucs Run D is questionable actually and Powell COULD have a nice game. They lost Bennett and are lacking a standout on the DLine. They have some young pieces like McCoy and Clayborn but no game changer. They can be ran upon. LBs are promising with Foster and David but again they are young. Their secondary on paper is promising but Banks is a rookie just like Milliner and there will be growing pains and Banks will be targeted and will have to answer the call for the Bucs. I agree though that Martin is prime to shred the Jets defense. He scares me and I can see a 120 yard 1 TD day from Martin. Jets will make Freeman beat them though and Freeman will have to answer for that, especially if Cromartie takes out Jackson. Will make the Milliner/Wilson matchup vs Mike Williams important. Bucs have nothing at TE to expose our safeties. Stocker has been a letdown to say the least. If Freeman has a good if not great day, it might get ugly....if Freeman is inconsistent if not lousy, Jets can win. Unless we cough up 2-3 turnovers, then forget it. We can afford 1 turnover but nothing more.
This reminds me of how fun it used to be two or three years ago to read other teams' fans, in the week preceding their Jets game, saying, "Yeah, well Revis shut down blah-blah, but OUR guy is going to toast him." lol. Same shit every single week, and Revis cracked them all in the teeth. And now we're doing it too. Ah, circle of life.
Revis post ACL surgery might be a different beast than Revis Pre ACL Surgery. I get shades of Randy Moss burning Revis if I get my way with the play. Maybe Revis pulls a hammy like he did vs Moss but I don't think Revis will be 100% heading to week 1. In a fantasy world, a not 100% Revis matches up with a not 100% Holmes and both cancel each other out and be non-factors. Holmes serves as a decoy and makes Revis respect him and Revis takes out the expected top WR on the Jets team, forcing someone else to step up if they can. Revis will be money from 5-10 yards so he could be a pest if we dink and dunk constantly but deep he's suspect since we don't know if he can match speed by speed against Hill after the ACL tear. In TB's ideal world, they want Revis to just work on small passes and don't want him working the sidelines on a possible bomb. Its why I love a flea flicker....whether you get Kerley involved in a reverse flea flicker is up to Marty but I tell my guys we're going for the throat on play 1.
Jets fans can think what they want, but the truth is their starter is likely OUT and they will be starting a back-up who is not ready to play in the NFL. They should be favored to beat no one.
I don't see how people can feel so confident against the Bucs. Last season they were very competitive and were in year one of the new head coach they brought in from Rutgers. The defense struggled but they added players to help the secondary. They found a RB who is going to be a star, and they are heading into year 2 of Greg Schiano as headcoach and are expecting to take the next step which is the playoffs. They have been gameplanning all summer for us and if we are going to put Geno Smith out there, we won't win. They will kill us by running the ball, they have recievers that will be difficult to shut down. Then the defense will be improved, the head coach is a defensive mind, they have well rounded team. If we were are to win it will be because they shoot themselves in the foot. I seen em play in the meadowlands last season against the Giants week 2 and it took ALOT for the Giants to win that game.
Eli threw I think two pick sixes or something like that. Freeman is another Sanchez he's very inconsistent. The only thing I worry about is Geno starting. He looked abysmal in that Giants game
You're forgetting about Josh Freeman. He's bad, plain and simple, and Rex Ryan knows how to feast on bad QB's. The gameplan will be stop Doug Martin, and make Josh Freeman beat us. I'll take the Jets on that one. The Jets offense vs the Bucs defense is a different story. If we can get the run game going, Jets take this one.
I agree that Freeman sucks but Freeman has Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson, Ogeltree so he has enough around him to operate an offense and get support from his weapons.
Cromartie isn't exactly a slouch, and matches up with Jackson physically. I don't how well Jackson is going to do against him. Not sure why you mentioned Ogeltree, Mike Williams is a much better receiver than him. Martin is a weapon, no doubt. But I think I would place my money on Rex and his defense to stop him. We'll see in 9 days, though.
I think the best strategy for dealing with Revis will be to basically ignore whatever receiver he's covering. I expect Holmes to be playing Week 1, and the Bucs will probably have Revis covering him since Holmes is still presumably our best receiver, but it's actually possible that Spadola or Hill is better. We don't really know how Holmes is post-injury, but I guess we also don't really know how Revis is either despite the positive reports from training camp on Revis. Revis probably has Holmes' number 100% from going up against him in training/practice while Revis was a Jet, so I would definitely not want to see a rookie QB trying to beat Revis in that situation. The Bucs have sort of a bad QB situation- some people (especially in the media) seem to think that the Jets are the only team with bad or untested QBs, but it's not like the Bucs have Payton Manning. I don't think they have a huge offensive advantage over the Jets, and when Rex's regular season defensive schemes come out I think we will be very effective. The run defense is still a big question mark, but I was not surprised to see the Eagles' first play was the same one that the Giants scored on on their first play of preseason game 3. Thankfully, instead of an 80+ yard TD, it lost about 3 yards, which gives me more hope that some of those problems are corrected. One thing that the Jets sort of have going for them is that the expectations are very low. The opponents are heavily favored to win every game, pretty much, so I think that some teams might take us a bit more lightly than they normally would, and Rex could use the negative articles and quotes from opposing players as "bulletin board material" to help fire up the team. I heard LaDanian Tomlinson on the Dave Dameshek Football Program (an NFL podcast) the other day. Dameshek was saying that the Jets have no WRs, a terrible offensive line (wtf... two pro bowlers- how could it be that bad? Also Pro Football Focus ranked it the #3 o-line in the league last year), and said (as if it was obvious) that they would only win 3 or 4 games in the entire season. LT didn't agree or disagree, but he said that the guys in the Jets locker room do not believe that, they truly feel like they can win, and he said that Rex Ryan is a coach that players really want to work their hardest for, and that he can get them to play at a level they didn't know they were capable of. Dameshek then reluctantly conceded that maybe the Jets could be okay if the defense is really good, but he still seemed to think it was most likely going to be a bottom 1 - 2 team. On other message boards, it's been interesting to hear what other teams' fans have been saying. Eagles fans were boasting about how they're going to squash the Jets, and were gloating after the safety early in the game. Then they became very pessimistic and then started ripping into their team saying that them and the Jets were the worst teams in the NFL, do you think the Jets would trade Foles for Simms (hah!), and were saying that because they were playing so poorly against the Jets their team must be one of the worst in the league. On the Bucs message boards, people were saying that if the Jets beat the Bucs their season is doomed and it means that their team is terrible. That this should be a very easy win. I'd have to guess that a lot of players would be feeling similarly, although I am still worried that Revis would have a multi-pick game if Smith is foolish enough to test him. I'd have to assume that Marty will game plan around Revis and focus on the other side of the field, the run game, and passes to TEs and RBs that they can't defend against as easily. While I don't think it's at all a given that the Jets will beat the Bucs, their QB is bad enough and the Jets' defense is good enough that I think we should be able to beat them as long as we don't have too many turnovers.
