clearly they were trying to see if there was a value for peterman as a veteran backup since he has lost the starting lg job. the snap in the dirt to sanchez probably sealed his fate, but hes a veteran lineman with years of experience, lets not act like they threw a rookie in his first snaps ever out there to protect sanchez
A guy that never played center in his entire before the prior 4 days, shouldnt be seeing live action in an NFL game. Thats worse than a rookie.
a man who openly roots for injuries is calling another poster childish? good "riddens" to you too:rofl2: Root all you want against a guy but to sink so low to root for injuries is pathetic. I feel bad for those people. Sanchez clearly separated himself from Geno, if the decision was coming from rex mark would have been named the starter a week ago. Yes mark had a few TOs but overall looked in command and was throwing the ball well, geno does not look ready YET. His chance will likely come at some point this season and hopefully he will have improved by then and be ready to play.
i think rex mind has been made up since day 1. i think he has simply been trying to will sancho to win the job. i really think the guy has a fetish with mark and he overlooks his flaws. irregardless of him getting injured, i dont really care about that. i think that he was inserted because rex thought he could really get a stranglehold on the competition. i think he figured well here is my shot to set mark up to solidify the job. geno played poorly, made bad decisions and wasnt on target on many of his throws. let me get mark in there for 2 series and if he goes and looks good i can talk to idzik tomorrow and we will announce him the starter on at 4pm. i think rex is rooting for mark sanchez with all his might. i also really think there is going to be a wedge between the front office and rex at some point this year.
Rex has a brilliant football mind and he's loyal. Maybe too loyal? but he saw Mark help him have his biggest success in this game and he knows he can win w/ Mark so he was going to have an edge w/ Rex. The problem is the GM butting his nose into the business of the coaches.
yeah i could understand an edge, i think rex is full out rooting for mark. i almost would love to look at his reactions to things that each qb does. i bet it would be very interesting if someone had tape of him for each play and you could put them side by side and keep track of his reactions and the difference in them. i honestly think rex has fallen in love with mark as his qb. i think he is blinded right now like so many been at some point in our lives with a girl who we thought could do no wrong. only mark is a qb, and rex is his head coach... which is weird and not productive for the team. i think that idzik sees it and that is why he is not going to let rex make the qb decision by himself. im telling you rex will be fist pumping if sancho is named the starter. its very odd.
the GM has to butt his nose into the coach's business because Rex doesn't know a thing about offense... and you said it yourself, he's too loyal to his players. It takes a GM to say - no Rex, we're not playing a washed up Bart Scott because he's your buddy. - We're not pounding it up the middle with a limited RB like Shonn Greene anymore. - We're not going to let you pick a QB because we can't trust whether you know enough about QB play, whether you care enough about the future or just your job in the short term, or whether or not you can set your loyalty aside for the good of the team.
Idzik is being loyal to his guy except his guy hasn't shown he is ready and has never won games in this league like Rex's guy.
- Take it from someone who's posted things that I've regretted the next day (maybe we all have at one time or another) -- you need to have this explained to you: [youtube]3miJDWa3CLM[/youtube] I'd like to know your thoughts after watching this (it's brief). And, maybe give a 2nd thought to that avatar of yours.
Really people it has nothing to do with loyalty and his guy BS with Mark. It is pretty clear now that Rex's job is on the line and if Geno gave him the best chance to win he would be rooting for Geno. As we have seen in the game Saturday and what Rex has seen in practice and on film Geno is not ready and the Jets do not have the type of team to win with a rookie QB. Rookie Qb success needs a great running game in a run oriented offense. MM runs a pass oriented offense that requires time to learn. As I said in a previous post if Geno starts Rex is all but gone.
Well, to be fair, Sanchez is a QB that needs a great running game to be successful as well. Thing is if Mark played like a veteran you would be 100% correct that he would be better off with a veteran than a rookie because a rookie is going to make rookie mistakes...but Sanchez makes as many if not more rookie mistakes than the average rookie despite being a veteran! So what advantage is there to playing Sanchez? Well, you know what you have and you can gameplan for that accordingly. Meaning you know he's going to turn the ball over, make bad reads, take sacks instead of throwing away the ball, manage the clock poorly, etc. That's the only advantage. It's being able to prepare for how bad you know he's going to be whereas with Smith you don't know if he's going to be ten times better or ten times worse than Sanchez so you can't gameplan for it. For the record I'm all for starting Sanchez this season but don't act like we've got Montana back there and Geno is some useless scrub. We're probably pretty much screwed regardless who we play. If Sanchez makes it through the bye-week as the starter I'd be shocked.
mcelroy is injured, and showed last year he is nothing more than a backup at best. If Geno is healthy and mark isn't you have to start Geno or you will become a bigger circus than with Tebow.
typical..... sancho gets blasted.... matt harvey goes down with a possible next year ending injury that we never even saw... and sancho will be back in a couple weeks. (i assume) this is my life.
Put Mark Sanchez in a pass-oriented offense and Rex is gone also. The options really are not good for him at this point. This is where the head coach makes a gut decision and then accepts that if his decision is wrong he is gone. If I were Rex my gut would tell me that after two straight Sanchez-inspired collapses at the end of the season that he was the last guy I could afford to have out there if I wanted to remain head coach of the Jets. Rex's gut we just don't know about. If he's really blind to Sanchez flaws then the Jets will start out poorly with Mark Sanchez at QB, make the switch to Geno at some point and likely play poorly for his first few games also and Rex will be in a broadcast booth somewhere making good money at the start of next season.
I think you are both wrong, Rex isn't going to get canned because of shite QB play, not this year at least. The FO know what we have in MS and what that means in a MM offense. AS a team we've done the right thing and started to address this, ironically Smith fell to us in round 2 and possibly expedited the troublesome QB situation. With Garrard retiring the problem reinvented itself to where we are now. If Smith show zilch this year we will be going QB round 1, Sanchise will be gone and maybe one out of either Simms or McElroy, But Rex will not be getting fired this season because a QB can't do his job
You may be right on this one. Although if the Jets close out the season with a string of losses I doubt it. A Rex team really should not be able to go worse than 5-11/6-10 or so. Assuming they do that in an even manner with some consistency and with younger players coming along as the season progresses Rex might well survive the season. If the Jets go 5-11/6-10 with Rex turning to his vets to try to win games and not doing a good job of getting the young guys exposure and development time I think he is toast, particularly if the Jets are say 5-8 or 6-7 and then lose out again.
