Its statement like this that make me shake my head at our fanbase. Our own fans perpetuating a perception conceived by NY's CIRCUS MEDIA. Ban Hammer in 3.... 2.... NO NO NO! This is the reason Sanchez is fucked up. if Geno has any shot at being a decent QB for the Jets Let him fucking sit!!!! You do NOT ruin yet ANOTHER potentially good QB by throwing into the start in week 1.
It's not just that, he's likely to be worse in the ridiculous mistake department this year than he was last year. He was worse in that department in 2012 than he was in 2011. People really don't understand David Carr syndrome all that well. The talent level of the QB is not what is at issue, because David Carr was a very talented QB. What's at issue is the QB's mentality and how he reacts to adverse conditions. Once he begins to make mistakes on a regular basis it's hard to reverse that flow and get back to where he was before the syndrome kicked in. The hits he's taking, at least in part because of the bad decision-making, reinforce the problems as pain is a bad motivator. The thing is, David Carr was a much better QB than Mark Sanchez is. His mistakes were in going to his first read and then immediately abandoning the play for a check down when the guy was not wide open. The Texans concluded that Carr's mentality was so messed up after watching a season of the check downs that they gave up on him. Sanchez is at the point where the errors are feeding on him and promoting more errors. And he's not that good to begin with. People expecting to see even the same guy they saw out there last year are probably being over-optimistic. Yeah, his competion percentage will improve some because of the WCO but it won't improve as much as we think it will because aside from the slant Sanchez is a crappy short passer. The mistakes will keep coming though and at some point Sanchez will just surrender. Not in Game 16 like he did in 2011 against the Fins. Not in game 13 like he did against Arizona in 2012. He's going to surrender much earlier than that this year and the Jets are going to be in a big hole at the point that he surrenders, like somewhere between 1-3 and 2-6. Then the bleeding will really begin because in comes Geno in a lost season and he's going to look like a rookie for his first series of starts.
I think you're probably closer with this than anyone else has been. I'll just throw in the crowd factor to aid in Marks fall, once the fans turn on him again, it'll be all over. I wonder if he's seeing a shrink to help him out?
From what I have seen this preseason I do not see a mentally broken QB that I saw the last few games last season and that is a big compliment to Sanchez. What i see from Sanchez is a QB that tries to hard to make plays and not knowing when to say when. He is hi and low and I think with MM as his coordinator Marks lows will not be as bad and his high will be higher. If I am wrong we will see Sanchez fold pretty early this season I do not see it. As for Mark starting or not I think there is no chance of Mark not be ready physically if it is only a bruise. Mark knows this is his last chance and if has to visit the pharmacy to play he will play. We nit picked Mark this preseason when he has played extremely well
He did not play extremely well. He had one productive drive vs the Lions. One productive drive vs the Jaguars. He turned the ball over in the same fashion that we have seen throughout his career in each of the 3 games. Now he is injured and this could cause him to play scared. His future is not pointing upwards.
Geno, a rookie, has a bad DEBUT and everyone is just shitting on the guy. Sanchez, the guy who has been playing like that almost EVERY game for the past 4 years is getting praised like he is the only solution to winning. Excuse me if I am skeptical of this forum's reaction to Saturday's game. We are the worst fan base after a loss and even after a win. I'll admit, Geno didn't look great but I don't think Sanchez has outshined the guy by any means.
This is a myth, starting a QB right away or sitting him for a year or 2, if a QB is bad, he is gonna be bad no matter what, if he is good, he'll be good. starting right away or sitting for a year won't change that.
I agree, I don't think it was starting Sanchez in his rookie year thats made him the inconsistent back he is today, and I don't think starting geno day one will somehow ruin his career trajectory either. I really don't get the argument to be honest, I've heard buzz words like confidence thrown around but I'm not sure how starting him week 9 or week 1 will end him in any substantially different way.
it does it can ruin a some QBs David Carr. That can be a matter of opinion what is not a matter of opinion if a QB is ready or not. If they are not ready they will take any chance the team has at winning. The jets do not have a team to carry a rookie Qb. That says to your Vets it is a throw away a season. There is not enough season for Vets to throw away seasons. Not a message you want to send to your team that might have a shot at a playoff birth.
That's why Matt Siimms should be the starter, he's outplayed both nacho & the genome. If, as Rex says, it's all about competition, then Simms is the obvious choice, he's easily outplayed them both.
And before people come around and say "Simms outplayed them against a 3rd team defense" etc. Just remember that although that may be true, he also displayed he has the best arm on the roster, 1st team D or 3rd team D, he will still have the best arm the roster. Imo, I think you take that arm, and you try to develop it.
You were watching different games. I saw a QB make some accurate throws have good command of the offense and huddle all while learning a new system. Any other Qb has his preseason you are praising him.
I've only seen one true QB with control of the offense and being a field general. The catch is it was neither Sanchez or Smith, but a undrafted FA who will not even get a shot because that would prove the Jets made a mistake drafting Smith and would put egg on the face of our GM as much as drafting Sanchez has to Rex.
Why would that be a factor at all? The Jets wouldn't feel like they made a mistake, they drafted the kid in the second round simply because he easily could have been a top pick in the first round in any other year. Where they drafted him, nobody should ever say they made a mistake. Not only that but It is way to fucking early to call our rookie QB a mistake at this point. It was one game. Stop over-reacting like so many do. EDIT: I just seen your avatar. I feel stupid responding to your bullshit now, is this real life? You are literally already proclaiming Geno as a bust. LawL, what a joke.
You misunderstand my avatar and posts, I've been saying Smith would be a bust since January when I first heard the Jets might draft him, and I've had my Smith (Bust) avatar since the second day of the draft when we selected him. I've not over-reacting to one game, I saw this coming eight months ago.
I'd like to see Simms with the the first team O...then make a decision. We already know what the other 3 did....regrettably.
sorry you don't agree and that's your right, (to have a different opinion) but if you think that 1 td and 4 int in less then 2 full games is acceptable then I will disagree with you. and anyone who keeps defending him, well that's just fucking annoying. sanchez sucked coming out of collage, and he still sucks TODAY. and geno was at best above average in collage playing against below average teams and talent.(imo) look I hope I am SO WRONG about geno, and I hope he turns out to be the best QB in the nfl, but he has done nothing to change my mind. and as far as patience goes, 44 years and counting my friend. I like the jets fan base here, I find the people who post here are not afraid to voice there opinion and do it with passion.
I am not sure what the solution is here. Sanchez is absolutely horrible. Everyone here throws around words like “improving” or “not that bad” these are not words you don’t want associated with your starting QB. I am starting to think if he only throws 1 interception a game, that’s not bad. Smith is not the answer here, I don’t think the kid will amount to much. With that said, I think they have to start Sanchez (if he’s not hurt). I think it’s only a matter of three games or so before we see Smith anyway.
