Prediction...Geno starts week one, is bad at first, then gets better week by week. Or....Sanchez starts week one, is bad, then stays bad, then is bad some more. Geno flashed it tonight, did he not? Let him play.
Probably should also point out that the Giants D is much better than the Jag's D that Sanchez padded his numbers against in the 2nd and 3rd quarters against the 2nd and 3rd team players. But hey, that would just be piling on.
If Geno has a repeat of the Giants game in Philly then I'd go with McElroy. Greg is experienced and can hold down the fort until Geno is ready. Based on this one game Geno is not ready. It would be a travesty to throw an unready QB in the fire. Even Sanchez in his rookie year looked more ready than Geno. If Geno goes to Philly and looks more comfortable and poised and leads the offense then I'd go with Geno.
We say the Giants had a decent defense yet the Jags were ranked ahead of them last year. I'm not saying they're great but they have some solid players.
For Geno: 3 interceptions, 1 safety. 3 + 1 = 4 I am not defending Sanchez, but you are aware that you essentially just listed: Higher completion rate, less turnovers, more TD's for Sanchez.
Mark has been awful, but for Rex to make the decision to put him behind a third string offensive line is a disgrace. He deserves to be fired for a ridiculous decision like that.
Lets see, 1 more TD, and only less turnovers IF you count a safety as a turnover...in which case we can add even more turnovers to Sanchez's career. I can tell you this, I'll take a safety over a panicked pick 6. Running out of the back of the endzone is a rookie mistake. But then losing track of the clock and running out the half on a busted play is also a rookie mistake that cost the team potentially 3 points. Rookie mistake by Geno cost the team 2 points, rookie mistake by Sanchez cost the team 3 points. Hint, 3 turn overs by Sanchez, 3 turnovers by Smith. One red zone interception by Sanchez, 0 by smith. One Pick six on a screen by Sanchez, 0 Pick 6 by Smith. Sanchez has cost the team between 10 and 14 points on turnovers (depending on if the Redzone had been a TD or just a field goal instead of an interception in to double coverage). Which puts him at a net score of 0 to +4 while Smith has a positive +7. Add in the rookie blunders mentioned above by both Qb's and Sanchez is-3 to +1 in net points and Smith is +5 in net points. And again you fail to account for Sanchez racking up approximately 1/2 of his completions against 2nd and 3rd unit defenses. where as 3/4 of Geno's has come against first unit. That in itself is a big difference. Now if you want to start really nit picking then one of Geno's 3 interceptions was really on the receiver having the ball stripped from him..but we could argue that point all night, just like we could argue the dropped passes that Geno had today, or the dropped interceptions that Sanchez has had, including a 2nd probable pick six that should have been easy but the defender dropped, but those are woulda coulda shoulda's and we won't debate those. But yeah, whatever makes you feel good man....
The Jags #1 defensive unit is about on par with the Giants number one's but the Giants have a lot more depth behind their number 1's than the Jags do. That was my overall point considering that Sanchez played 2 of 3 quarters essentially against the Jags #2 and #3 units.
But the really telling part of the argument is that for Sanchez supporters it all hinges on if a safety was a turnover. Granted it's not a good thing, but at least he didn't hand the other team 6 points on a pass that NEVER should have been thrown.
Greg is experienced based on what? On getting destroyed last year on a team that couldn't pass-block for sh*t? He may be the "smarter" QB but his arm is Chad Pennington-like. I prefer to try Simms with the #1's. I just feel he would fare better. Maybe I'll be wrong and Greg blows up but after seeing the decision-making and throws that Matt made last night(even if they were against backups), I think Simms should get a shot.
There is no way that Sanchez will start in Week 1. It was a sure thing that he would, up until the point where his shoulder got hurt. He might have separated his shoulder or broken his collar bone. :sad: I'm not a Sanchez fanatic but after the second Smith interception I felt like Smith would not be ready to start on Week 1. Mark's shoulder is not so great, and he may have broken bones. I would be shocked if he was ready to play for Week 1 or Week 2 (4 days after Week 1 for us.) There's some chance that he is going to miss the entire season, in which case we will put him on IR. Maybe they'll give Matt Leinart a call or something - I don't think we will trade for someone's backup QB, and even if we do he would have to be very familiar with the WCO so that he could adapt to our system fast. Leinart is only able to function in the WCO, and he's a free agent, currently being looked at by the Bills. We could sign him tomorrow on the cheap. If Mark will be able to play in like 6 weeks, I don't think we can go into the season with just Smith and McElroy available. Frankly, in a lot of ways I think Simms is better than McElroy- he has a great arm and was accurate throwing deep, was able to extend plays, and he seems to have a lot of energy, passion, and confidence. But, who knows how he'd be playing with the 1s against the 1s.
You know, I've been watching over and over the 3 turnovers and the safety. first interception. The ball should have been a little more out in front but the ball was in the receiver's hands and the defender just wanted it more. A little more out in front and that's not a pick. But to be fair the receiver should have had the ball or at least knocked it from the defender. Not a perfect throw but one that shouldn't have been a pick either. the 2nd pick I don't know what Geno saw but that one's on him. The 3rd pick that one's all on Geno as well. The safety, I've called that a rookie mistake before seeing the play. I can't call it a rookie mistake per se, The defender shot through the gap and Geno took the one route he could take to get away from the defender. The mistake he made was rounding the escape route out too much and winding up just a shade over the line, but his thought process was correct, roll out of the pocket and throw the ball away. He was just a step or two too far back in the endzone. I will say this, he didn't panic and throw the ball where it could be picked off, and he tried to do the right thing by rolling outside of the box and throwing the ball away in a safe manner. We saw Sanchez on a similar play earlier pre-season, except not right on the goal line, where instead of rolling away from the defender he floated a lollypop to the DL that resulted in a pick 6. Now Smith did need to have a better grasp of where the backside of the endzone was, so I'm not excusing that mistake. Rather here I'm comparing the through process between two QB's in somewhat similar situations where the pass rush broke through quickly and in just about the same spot on the O-line and the decision process of the two QB's. Ones first impulse was to roll right and get outside the tackles and throw the ball away, the other was to keep backing up and throw a lollypop to the LOS. Now I ask you, which one of those two plays was truly the more rookie type mistake?
While you were watching these again, did you notice his "happy feet", lack of mechanics or his inability to plant his feet for the throw? Once I noticed it I began to pay attention and it was horribly clear on every single drop back. It's scary to watch him drop back into the pocket. I just want to make sure I wasn't seeing things.
