All great points. Our D has to be "special" just about every week to give us a chance to win, and in todays NFL where its up-tempo, high octane offenses, our offense has to be able to at least score 17-21 every week to have a chance. With Sanchez at QB and at his absolute very best, 17 -21 points are by far his limits BUT he always gives away 7-10, as he of course is the leader in the stat where a QB aids the other team in additional points by turnovers, 3 and outs etc.
I never absolved the O of blame, they get their share but the main culprit was the D. In NE, we win the game if the D gets one stop. We had all the momentum, we came back on the road in the toughest building in the league for opponents- down 10 in the 4th and the D gets a 3 pt lead and can't hold it in the final minute.
In 2 months we're going to have to change the name of this thread to "Sanchez is just awesome.... just awesome"
Yes, I agree with this too. The offense needed to score more. This is the NFL. However, Rex built the team that way. Defense-first. It is tough to win that way in the NFL now. You need to score. This is why Jets fans don't like Sanchez. He doesn't really fit in an offense Rex wants to run. Chad Pennington would have actually been a great fit. Mistake-free, game manager.
Funny shit. I guess the failure to score with 1st and 4 had nothing to do with the offense and neither did the pick 6. It was all the defense!! The truth is, the defense got us a bunch of stops late in the game and we failed to capitalize. The Steelers offense got the ball back with under 2 minutes to go and they got the first down. Shit happens, but that was hardly the biggest play of the game. If both the offense and defense didn't get dominated in the first half, things would have been different.
Great point about Pennington, and when you think of Chad, you really just think that he is or was the Anti-Sanchez or complete opposite of Sanchez. Chad was very smart, a great game manager Sanchez is not smart, and a terrible game manager Chad hardly ever turned the ball over, especially in critical situations Sanchez is a turnover machine, especially in critical situations, and red zone Chad completed about 70% of his passes Sanchez completes about 53% Of course Chad was drafted by the Genious, Bill Parcells, who absolutely hated drafting a QB in the 1st round, but he took Chad, and then when the Jets discarded him for Favre, Parcells grabbed him for the Phins and they immediately won the division. More Parecells genious and a very smart QB!
I agree with that but just becasue Rex build this to be a D first team doesn't mean we place more blame on the D then we should. D first or not there are reasonable expectations for the D and O. The D deserves blame for giving up the game winning drive but more of the blame belongs on Sanchez and the O for only putting up 13 points while giving away 7. That is not a D loss or a team loss. The majority of the blame belongs on Sanchez and the O. Anyone arguing differently is flat out wrong. Junc only puts 50 / 60% of the blame on Sanchez for the Titans loss. That removes all creditability for his assessments on placing blame on any other loss. I would have love to have seen what a healthy Chad could have done on our 2009 or 2010 team.
It was clear to anyone with a shred of awareness last year that Rex's man love for Sanchez was his achilles heal. The "best chance to win" nonsense. It was plain to see that even Kerley at QB would have given us a better chance to win. That's exactly why Izdik's failure to cut Sanchez on June 1st was the first big indication that he doesn't have what it takes to be a good GM. It did not take a crystal ball to see that Rex's zeal to shovel Muck out onto the field no matter what would be an issue this year. Hopefully Izdik can wisen up and chalk that up to a rookie mistake on his part.
I have been a Big Idzik supporter since they hired him, and no one, and I mean no one wants Sanchez off this team more than me, but that being said, boy, this was a tough call for Idzik, Having to eat all that contract money of the USC turnover machine, WOW, and I'm sure Woody would have hated to write that check, while Sanchez is laying on some So Cal beach, reading People magazine. Please, give Idzik some time. If what happens to the Jets this year is as most predict, Sanchez and Rex will be distant memories and Idzik can then really begin to rebuild this team! I hope!
It was a red zone pick that took points off the board and robbed us of being in an enviable position, from there on out. It was clearly a game-changer. And I completely agree with the bolded. Junc, it was an enormous play in the game. It was another red zone pick and was absolutely a game changer. Let me put it to you this way: Generally speaking, red zone interceptions are HUGE, GAME-CHANGING, MOMENTUM-ALTERING plays. They take points off the board. They usually give the other team a huge momentum boost. They are big negatives that must be overcome, throughout the course of a game. Again, both of these statements are entirely true, and yet, neither one is relevant to my point. That was still a game-changing, and in point of fact, game-ending play. And one of Sanchez's most alarming habits (among many others) is being completely blindsided (This very thing actually happened to him in back to back possessions in the Miami game - I had never seen that before - It was fucking amazing). The guy is chronically unaware and oblivious to what is happening around him. Again, both of these points are correct. But once more, neither one of them has any bearing the reality that Mark's pick was a game-changing, and in point of fact, game-ending play. Another "non-sequitur". Again, not relevant to the discussion. Mark's pick was still an enormous, game-changing play. LOL, keep reading and re-reading the bolded over and over again until you understand. That's a pretty big change, junc. That mistake can't happen in a tight, competitive game. And I just don't agree with the comment "That play didn't hurt us because we won". Just because we were able to overcome that ridiculous interception, doesn't mean it didn't hurt us, doesn't mean it didn't change the game, and most certainly doesn't mean we should consistently tolerate it from our starting quarterback. In 2010, Mark's bad days were characterized by overall futility in the passing game, as opposed to consistent, monumental, game-changing turnovers. The one thing Mark did consistently well that year was NOT turn the ball over. He gets credit for that. In 2009, he turned the ball over with such frequency and in such concentrated flurries, that it is hard to comment on each one's overall significance. He just threw a lot of really bad picks that year, lol. But as I always say, he was a rookie and I really don't hold his poor performances from that year against him with anywhere near as much vigor as I do for the ones from the rest of his career. The particularly costly picks that stand out for me from 2009, were the ones he threw in the Buffalo game (his first real game where he just completely shit the bed). That was a game that we would have won 10 times over if we got even marginal play from our quarterback. He threw five picks that absolutely ruined our 200 plus yard rushing performance.
I'm definitely still of an open mind about Idzik. I was just really looking forward to see what a Rex Ryan defense could do with a quarterback that wasn't an inept turnover machine. To consistently have a top ten defense with constant short fields, terrible time of possession, and no point support makes you wonder how good they could be with even average qb play. It will be too bad if Rex let's Sanchez take him down.
In essence, This perfectly describes how inept Sanchez really is. He gives us the meager production (Near the bottom of the league in passing yards, yards/attempt, tds) of a limited game manager, but he makes the constant mistakes of a daring gunslinger. So, with Mark, we get below average passing production along with a plethora of huge, disastrous turnovers. We get the worst of both worlds. Great.
But top 10 best, with 4 playoff victory on the road. Offense NEEDS to share the blame somewhat, but it's all defense's fault at the end of the day. End of discussion. If anything, the defense was not as good as the stat sheets said it was, and Sanchez was better than the stat sheet said he was. On top of that, the likes of Montana pulling the comeback with 2 minutes on the clock is expected, but if Sanchez cannot do that, it's Ok since Sanchez is not HoF QB anyway. Others? They MUST do it. They are assessed according to different metric. So if Sanchez cannot lead the team to victory in that situation, it is not his fault but if the defense cannot hold the other team in that situation, they cost the game.
