he's had a good camp by all accounts, he's looked really good at times in preseason only to spoil it w/ a bad moment. It's frustrating seeing that end of half mistake, that one is bothering me more than any other.
WOW, he means FOOTBALL camps right and not the kind where you bunk with 17 other kids and cook SMORES at night? Mark, please do us all a favor and JUST NOT SAY ANYTHING, its painful to read what comes out of this guys mouth!
I don't know what he was doing, I have to assume Marty was in his ear discussing the situation. It's beyond mind boggling. sort of like this new guys posts so far.
This is so spot on. I've always commented on just how lucky Sanchez is was to be drafted by the Jets. I can't think of another team that would continue to start a quarterback that shows such little improvement after so many games.
it's not true, can we not lump in his entire career w/ the 2012 disaster? he has had ONE bad year and that was the ONE year we were under .500 w/ him where no QB(besides MAYBE Brady) would have succeeded w/ the healthy talent we had.
no, he has had 2 catastrophically bad seasons, 1 awful season, and 1 bad season. he has 0 good seasons. you can remove 2012 all together and you are still left with 3 seasons of horrific QB play.
one good rookie season one top 10ish season(anywhere from 8-12) one mid of the pack season one brutally bad season
Not everyone feels that way. He was good for a rookie given the circumstances of being thrown to the wolves w/ a veteran laiden team that just fell short of the super bowl He was above average in 2010 despite a downgrade in both the running game & OL. He made a TON of plays in 2011. Yes the turnovers were bad..but you can't ignore the # of TDs he accounted for. You just can't. Last year he was horrid but so was his surrounding cast. He may not be a franchise QB..and perhaps he isn't the long term answer. But that doesn't mean the Jets can't win w/ him if he's supported correctly.
Mark has his faults and I am not defending him but: No #1 receiver Last year Stone hands Shonn Greene-goes down on first contact Poor offensive line-no running lanes/passing lanes
Other than the SD game how was our OL bad enough to be used as an excuse? They werent 09/10 good but were solid. The QB has to be able to play without a perfect pocket every snap. Dont even start with the OL in 2012. Skill positions and OC? Fine. But spare us the b.s. that he didnt have time in the pocket at all last yr.
Sanchez was cooked at the end of 2011. The Fins game where he was just throwing the ball into the line under pressure should have told us what we needed to know at that point. Then, of course, he put together that last drive to muddle the picture again. There comes a point where the ability to do really good things doesn't matter any more. That point is when you have done good things a few times but the body of the evidence suggests you are not good.
2 TO? - I don't think I said turnover. Read what I said again. I CLEARLY stated Sanchez was good for a pick a game. Wanna bet? He had 18 picks last season. That's steady 1 pick/game ratio. The years before? He had: 20-13-18-18, 69 picks over 62 games - that's a little more than a pick a game. Are you telling me he has changed? How? He started two games this preseason, and he didn't disappoint with 2 picks, 1 pick a game.
It's even worse then the numbers suggest. When you include fumbles, he has far more turnovers then any player in football. And it's not like he is just a gunslinger, and he's having games with 4 td's and 1 int. His games are more like 0 td 1 int or 1 td and 2 ints. You could deal with a few extra turnovers with a guy like young Favre, because he was bombing the ball down the field and scoring tons of tds and big plays in between turnovers. This also speaks to the kind of int it is. Getting intercepted deep on a 3rd and long is one thing, just as good as a punt. Constantly turning it over in the red zone, to defensive lineman, and on short passes and dump offs is a travesty. It's an embarrassment - it should virtually never happen. Instead, with Sanchez, he makes at least one of these disastrous plays every game. Most of these ints come because of his very poor decision making and his penchant to lock on to a receiver and look at him all the way before making the throw (which also allows defenders to easily lock on). Just as bad however is his complete inability to throw short passes accurately. He never, ever hits a receiver in stride, even when the guy is standing 2 yards away. His incredibly inaccurate short passes were hidden somewhat by LT's great hands in his first two years (also resulting in a death of chances for LT to run after the catch). These terribly inaccurate passes lead to deflections, which lead to more interceptions. This is amplified when Sanchez is under pressure, afraid of getting hit, and makes a panicked throw. The guy is dog shit.
I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just saying that 1 TO is better than 2, and if Sanchez cuts his TOs in half it's a good thing. Fumbles are just as bad as picks. Sanchez was a turnover machine last year and struggled to score, so to see him have 2 TD scoring drives in a preseason game is a good thing and miles better than last preseason where he didn't score one the entire 3 games he played, not even with the running game. Even the haters have to admit he's performing better than last year at this time.
For rookie standards, Mark did not have a good rookie season. The TEAM had a good season, he did not. Id say around 24-30 ranked. RG3, Luck, Russel Wilson, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan had good rookie seasons. Mark, not so much. 2010 I would say he was around 14-18. Lead some very good comebacks, but played the role of a game manager. I personally cant rank a game manager inside the top 10. If you are a top 10 QB you have to be a focal point of your team. 2011, started off strong, but finished like one of the worst QBs in the league when we were trying to make a playoff push. Bottom 20. 2012 speaks for itself. Bottom starting QB.
