After watching some preseason, has your W-L prediction changed?

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  1. RIPJimLeonhard

    RIPJimLeonhard Well-Known Member

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    Can someone link me to a source about Coples getting surgery?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Not sure there is any such link, since hairline fractures don't tend to require surgery.
     
  3. Greenday4537

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  4. RIPJimLeonhard

    RIPJimLeonhard Well-Known Member

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    So what is this talk about him needing surgery?

    Edit: Wow, thanks for the link, "out indefinitely" does not sound optimistic. So I'm gonna continue sticking with 4-12/5-11.
     
  5. BleednGreen

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    lmfao fuckin jets fans here comes the catastrophes after a fucking preseason game
     
  6. BrooklynJet97

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    I know im kind of minimizing the situation but we only gave up 13 pts to Jacksonville's 1's. I think we will be okay. Its always on the offense, but from what I have seen early on with the offense, I certainly have much more confidence than I did last year.

    Guys are getting open and our Line is stepping up. At our worst we are a 6 win team going by last year. Sanchez makes the plays he should(Gates WIDE FUCKING OPEN in the EZ) and we are going to be pretty good.

    I certainly have confidence Rex hasnt really shown any of his schemes. Dude is a Defensive genius. I still think we are good enough for 9-10 wins.

    Main key: Sanchez.

    Like always. Such a shame.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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  8. DanR

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    Your analysis is off. Some of those teams will play bad but you're forgetting to factor in that Jets could play worse. Just because there are games Jets should win doesnt mean its games Jets will win.


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    Good point. O-Line, Powell, and Mornhinweg were the highlights from Saturdays game. Jets just need a game manager and we could be a better team.
     
  9. 1968jetsfan

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    I'm still sitting at between 5-7 wins for the season. I may have to downgrade that a little though if EJ keeps going like he is then the Bills are going to have a very legitimate offense. Granted their defense isn't as good as the Jets, at least on paper, but I don't know if the offense will be up to the task.

    If EJ wins the starting job (and is healthy) for Buffalo and Spiller is healthy I don't think the Jets match up very well with them at all. Jets may be battling Miami for the bottom of the division.
     
  10. Jets Esq.

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    Of course one can't pencil in the "easy" games as wins... but you also can't mark down the games against the better teams as losses. The Jets could be anywhere from a slightly above average team to one of the worst teams, but we won't know until the season unfolds.

    In the media, the consensus seems to be that the Jets will win about 2 - 4 games, which I think is hugely under-rating the team. I don't see the Jets doing worse than they did last year, although it could happen. On the other hand, I think they could also easily do a lot better, considering improvements at WR, the O-line, the OC, the D-line improving, and Rex calling the defensive plays. Sanchez didn't stop the '10 Jets from winning 11 games despite his frequent turnovers.

    The over-under for the Jets is 7 wins, so 6 - 8 wins is probably where the Jets will end up, but I'm an optimist. If someone is really confident that the Jets will win far fewer than 7 games, the Vegas odds become a very attractive bet. There's so much randomness involved that it's very hard to predict these things accurately.

    It's not like the Jets got blown out in all of their losses. 4 of their losses and 3 of their wins were settled by 10 points or less, so if the Jets had been really lucky (fumble recoveries, bad calls, a random lucky play) they could have gone 10-6, or 3-13 if they'd been absurdly unlucky (beyond "only" losing their best offensive and defensive players to season-ending injuries.) That's because there were 7 games that could've gone either way- and the Jets ended up winning only 3 of them.

    Personally, I'm expecting the Jets to once again have about 3 games where they win decisively (by 14+), 4 games where they get blown out and look awful (the 3 - 4 or more turnover games that WILL happen), and another 9 games that could go either way. I feel like the offense will be better (maybe the 20th overall instead of the 30th or whatever), and the defense should be in the top 5. That should be enough to improve to 8-8 or 9-7 if things go pretty well and the Jets aren't too unlucky.
     
  11. RIPJimLeonhard

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    Let's face it, this is not a top 5 defense though, it wasn't last year and it won't be this year, our LB corps is still a weak spot, and the safeties are less than desirable.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Jets D got picked apart in the preseason of 2009 and ended up being the best ranked defense in the league.

    I'm concerned about how they produced yesterday, but seriously. You know as little as anyone why they stumbled in that game.
     
  13. RIPJimLeonhard

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    Not just that game though, overall just looking at the depth chart, those positions don't look appealing, but I will admit, you're right, I know as little as anybody else as to what they can do. I haven't been at every training camp and I don't know what the coaches know, they could surprise me, but I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  14. 1968jetsfan

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    Actually the game, aside from Copels injury, had little effect on my viewpoint. Unless the teams offense takes a major step up from the last two years this is a losing season. Even if the Jets offense does take a big step up the defense is now anchored around a very young defense with big question marks at Safety and smaller question marks in the LB corp and one Corner position. I have no doubt the jets defense will still be a top 16 unit, but it remains to be seen if the youngsters and fringe players can step up enough to stay a top 10 or top 5 defense.

    I've been hovering between 4-7 wins all off season, probably going to narrow that to 4-6 wins pending the how the QB situation looks after week 3 of the preseason.
     
  15. CBG

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    I cant see us being worse than last year but then again we still have the same guy behind center and unless he plays lites out during the season he will get crucified by fans and media. The preseason has shown Sanchez to be more of the same ole same ole so I expect some good out of him much like the first series the other nite against Jax but I expect a lot of bad out of him much like therest of the game against Jax.
    I believe 90 percent of jet fans have had it with mark and he will be under the microscope and feel their wrath,,,,,,home games should be downrite ugly at times for him. In keeping with this thread I think the def will be better than last year,,,speed alone along with the infusion of more youth will help. Time will tell I say 8 wins is doable but that is my ceiling ,,,,we probably are back at 6 wins .
     
  16. TNJet

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    10-6 is what I am sticking with. Rex has to be motivated because this is his last shot. He may be so motivated that he makes necessary changes at a spot or two. I do believe that we need to get help with the LBs pronto.

    Maybe this is Sapp's chance to shine.
     
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  17. NY Jets68

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    I was optimistic at 8-9 wins. The offense looks much better than last year, opening up holes and pass protecting. If LTJF can somehow ban Sanchez and Smith is behind this line, I think 10-11 wins is possible
     
  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    lol! I'd love to ban Sanchez from the Jets!
     
  19. BigGreenUgly

    BigGreenUgly Well-Known Member

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    Everyone single one of those teams are better than the Jets except for Oakland and maybe Cleveland.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Still 6-10. Could be a bit better or a bit worse but I think the talent just isn't there to have a big upside season.

    If Geno Smith gets the job and then plays on the upside of his early potential the Jets might surprise but other than that I think we're pretty flat this year. No surprise there, the cap and talent issues were obvious in January and nothing was going to stop them from creating a down season.

    The Seahawks were a 7-9/8-8 team going into the season last year and then Russell Wilson happened. The Jets getting to 10 wins is going to require something similar out of Geno Smith.
     
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