As Hobbes pointed out, Cumberland and Hill where open on that interception. By the time Sanchez started his throwing motion, Winslow was already behind the defender. I understand it is a bang bang play, but there were two other open receivers. He locked onto Winslow and the play was screwed from then on. It may not have been as bad as everyone is making it out to be, but the fact that these mistakes keep happening and that it was in the endzone, it is definitely something to be concerned about. I dont think Sanchez has really improved that much. He seems better than he was at the end of last year, but he hasnt taken that significant step that we need from him. He is what he is. Inconsistent and prone to mistakes... putting it lightly.
What's really sad is there are hundreds of college and highschool QB's that watch him play and feel they could do a better job. You know what? They could do a better job. Malibu Mark just plain ole sucks.
The wildcat was working good last night,, first and goal from the 3,,how can you not try the wildcat at least once ?...Instead Sanchez runs,,,unbelievable.
How many points did he put on the board last night? After posting a 99.8 rating lastmweek. If you cant see how much better he is than he has been, you are in denial. Jes never played like this except in the playoffs. Hes got a bunch of 20 plus yard pass plays, including scoring strikes...lwhwn he managed 39 all of last season. In two weeks he has had two mismatches with Winslow, that made him look bad, but in thos case, Winslow is the guy coming to camp late, and if you warch the pick, its clear he fucked up. Now, its only the Jags, but you wouldnt take 27 every week?
The vast majority of fans are in the middle, because they see that he is what he is - someone who is capable of a great drive on one series, and awful INTs and clock management in other series. I really can't understand why anyone would be surprised at this point - this is exactly who he has been his entire career. It would be wonderful if he could somehow remove the ridiculous mistakes from his game, but I don't feel there is any reason to believe it will happen. Certainly nothing has happened in the preseason to suggest it will happen.
Dude, he dropped three steps and leet it go. The call was to go to Winslow, He took the outsode shoulder, instead of cutting underneath, that int was all winslow. The Ziggy toss was Mark. He needed to locate TBo. No question. That throw, was on Winslow...its not even a close call.
They are. First thing they did was work on his fumbling issue. The next coaching point will be his tendency to try to hit a bad pass on a broken play. Dont know if they will get him out of trying to throw a "catchable" ball. If they got thru the last two, theyd cut his ints in half.
Right but in team sports sometimes plays that were designed to go one way ends up breaking down. When that happens Sanchez as the QB needs to realize that nothing is there and just do something else. Instead he forces a throw. If you watch basketball for example and the pg tries to throw an entry pass to the low block but the player doesn't have good position. You don't force it in there. You pull it back and wait for the player to reestablish better position or you give the ball to another player. I'm not saying you're wrong per say about Winslow running a wrong route. However as the QB Sanchez needs to realize that he isn't in position, then recognize where the pressure is coming from and throw to another player ( if open) or throw the ball away and get 3 points.
Maybe its just me guys....but I see a much better offense than we have seen since Curtis Martin was in the backfield.
i agree with everything said. we know who sanchez is and what he can and will often do. the moderates of us (not the haters or apologists) recognize he's probably not much better then what we've seen and will likely still be as inconsistent as ever. Barring a grand turnaround he's a stop gap right now, a replacement for Garrard in what his role was supposed to be should geno show he needs more time. i wonder what he thought? Junc has never struck me as an unreasonable poster, just one with a weird set of standards. (to me at least) he seems to be pretty objective about the whole thing, and recognizes that unless he Sancehz does very well he's likely gone.
It is virtually impossible for anyone to defend SANCHEZ anymore. In his 4 years as Jets QB he has put up EPICALLY historic incompetent numbers and anyone trying to defend him is simply living in denial and praying that some sort of miracle occurrs and he morphs into a real NFL QB. Since the TQBR rating has been kept, he is the all-time leader in SINGLE DIGIT TQBRS, he is the all-time leader in the stat that calculates how many points you have AIDED YOUR OPPONENT, and the all-time leader in the stat of POINTS YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR OWN TEAM. Now granted, some of this is due to the fact that the completely incompetant REX RYAN, and former GM Tannenbaum have miraculously allowed this guy to continue to play for 4 years and possibly, incredibly a 5th year where most if not ALL NFL teams would have cut him already, and guys like LEAF and RUSSELL were cut when they should have been yet the JETS allow SANCHEZ to continue to pile up EPICALLY BAD STATS. In another thread, we were asked how to evaluate a QB, and first and foremost in any QB evaluation is LEADERSHIP as wel as other intangibles. Sure, PHYSICAL skills help but LEADERSHIP and other intangibles make great or even good NFL QBS. SANCHEZ is one of the worst LEADERS I have evr seen play the position of QB, he is one of the worst DECISION makers I have ever seen, he is one of the worst CLOCK MANAGERS I have ever seen. He is one of the POOREST readers of defenses I have ever seen, and is histrically one of the most INACCURATE QBS of all-time. His maturity continues to amaze me as the other night when he threw a TD(in a pre-season game), he celebrated like he just won the superbowl, where BRADY or MANNING etc. would have run to the sidelines like they do it everyday or every play. Now back to his dismal performances and some of the other ridiculous arguments I have heard, and 1 that is amazing is people will POST ELI MANNINGS stats after 4 years somehow supposedly for the sake of comparing SANCHEZ to MANNING, but (and Mannings stats were better anyway)the difference in those 4 years was you could see the LEADERSHIP from MANNING and with SANCHEZ, you simply saw a DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS with zero leadership skills. Again, for those that want to somehow defend this guy, go ahead, but in reality MARK SANCHEZ being a number 5 pick is now clealy in the top 5 with guys like Russell, Leaf, Couch etc. as one of the all-time worst high drafted QBS, and the sooner he is not a JET is the sooner this team can finally move on and become a legitimate NFL team and not the BUTT of everyones jokes!
I know you believe that, but I don't see it. Certainly he has made the same mistakes in these two games he has made all along - the inexcusable INT by the DL last week, forcing the ball in to a broken primary read when other receivers were open yesterday, trying (and failing) to run it in from the 3 when he had a wide open receiver directly in front of him yesterday. I don't believe that in his 5th year in the league he's going to suddenly stop doing the things that have held him back his entire career.
