Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what Jets fans are thinking with Sanchez (I never do). He was pretty good tonight. He has proven that he can overcome that terrible stretch of games last season. Jets fans act like he has to be Aaron Rodgers or let Geno start. You guys are ridiculous. Sanchez is the starter. Until he completely tanks or the Jets are out of playoff contention, he should remain the starter.
     
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    Pretty much. Sanchez is on Kyle Orton level now. Good backup QB. Lacks leadership skills to be the starter.
     
  3. Noam

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    Good assessment. Sanchez needs to be pumped up and have his confidence raised. Watch Sanchez when he talks after a bad game he always seems to minimize his mistakes. He usually said something like I thought I played mostly good game. the receivers need to catch more ball, we need to block better or it was great play by the defender. He never said it was his fault and takes full responsibility. Good QB leaders often take the blame even when its not their fault. He has never appeared to be secure enough to do that.
     
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    and if he did that would be bad? Serious question.
     
  6. laxin

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    Or how about Blaine Gabberts 130 passer rating? He must be a future HOFer?
     
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    It wasn't a bang-bang play. Sanchez should have saw that the DB was right in front of Winslow and should have looked elsewhere instead of trying to throw the ball through the defenders body. It's not physically possible.
     
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    Let me tell you, having been in an NFL locker room, last year you might be right. THIS year not a chance. Rex Ryan may be a player's coach and may be a loyal, good all around guy but he KNOWS when his ass is on the line and it's about the livelihood for his family. He knows where his bread is buttered with Idzik and it's all about the win(s). More than anyone he knows 2009/10 was a looonnngg time ago and that doesn't mean squat right now. He'll play whomever he feels he can win with. Period. TRUST me on that one.
     
  9. BeastBeach

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    lol let's keep in mind it was the Jaguars. I thought Sanchez played well. But so does everybody who plays the Jaguars. For y'alls sake I hope Rex Ryan knows that too
     
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    Two reasons. The only other QB healthy enough to play was Simms and likely they wanted to get Sanchez some confidence after the horrible way he ended the 1st half with the mental meltdown running out the clock. But notice MM did not let him throw the ball again on either of the goal line 3rd quarter goal line situations. Just running it exclusively so as to let him get credit for the score but not expose him to another RZ turnover.
     
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    Just how low do you want to set the bar? Sanchez isn't Tyler Thigpen so we're all set for 2013?

    The problem is that we're too used to settling for less than the best. Sanchez is never gonna be Aaron Rogers, or Peyton Manning, or Eli Manning, or Matt Ryan, or even Joe Flacco. Mark Sanchez is Mark Sanchez. If that's good enough for a franchise that hasn't won a goddamn thing since man landed on the moon then there's a fundamental problem that needs to be addressed or we will keep doing the same things over and over w/o ever getting a different result.
     
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    VERY good assessment! This is definitely the "psychology" behind Sanchez. He is definitely one of those "blow sunshine up their ass" guys.
     
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    another thing. The Giants secondary tends to suck correct? When Mark was doing great, damn near everyone was saying it was because of the Jags. So if Geno lights it up next week against an iffy secondary, would others here apply that same logic or is it meant exclusively for Mark Sanchez?
     
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    Geeeezzzz Cman...it's been a while since I've seen it in writing!!! "Since man landed on the moon!" Whew!!!!
     
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    He kept saying he had a 99.8 passer rating meaning he played great so wouldn't the 76.2 rating mean he played not so great which Hobbes won't admit
     
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    Fuck talking about weeks, look at his career:

    2009:63.0
    2010:75.3
    2011:78.2
    2012:66.9
     
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    I don't think Rotoworld understands what "majority" means.

    163 - 82 = 81. 82 > 81.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here
     
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    Well Mezz, I had to add a little perspective to the debate man.. LOL
     
  19. Br4d

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    Sanchez doesn't have Orton's skills though. Orton completing 55% of his passes would be a typo. Ditto for Orton throwing a lot of picks. I totally agree with your assessment of Orton's leadership qualities but he's a technically proficient passer, something Sanchez has never approached in the NFL.

    The thing that's amazing to me at this point is that most people don't realize how bad a QB Sanchez really is in the absence of a totally clean pocket and wide open receivers.

    He's really bad under pressure. He's really bad at threading the needle although he tries to do that a lot. He misses open receivers while he's locked in on his first read ALL the time. He's just a really crappy QB.

    His first couple of years it was easy to forgive him the faulty reads and int's that came from them because he was a young guy in an offense that was not easy to run. When he suddenly looked much better after the Jets simplified things and asked him to throw 20 passes a game we all thought it was his natural ability coming out. In fact it was the offense being dumbed down enough and the demands placed on him being reduced enough that he could play at a competent level.

    In 2011 the Jets took off the training wheels and he started really chucking the ball around and within a half dozen games the Jets had to put the clamps back on again because Mark Sanchez unleashed is a scary sight - to his teammates, coaches and the fans that root for the Jets. It's not that he can't make most of the throws, it's that he *doesn't* make enough of them to forgive the critical errors that he makes alongside those throws.

    At this point it's just a joke watching him play QB when the other team is focused on making his glaring weaknesses emerge. Somebody last year described his pocket presence and mobility as "squirrelly". Man, they were right on target.

    You need a calm, polished guy at QB in the NFL these days. The arm is important but the mind is what makes or breaks a QB. A squirrel is roadkill in the NFL and that's what we've got back there right now.
     
  20. The Dark Knight

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    I know that and agree. I am just saying I don't get how people say: "I am disappointed in Mark tonight." or "Wow, Mark let me down tonight" when he was clearly his average self. I have seen him much worse. I have not seen him that much better, so I don't get the disappointment.
     
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