Check out who's #1 and #2, the biggest bandwagon in football along with a fan base who didn't know they had a team up until 2001 https://blogs.emory.edu/sportsmarke...-equity-maybe-the-cowboys-are-america’s-team/
Dallas may have been built on bandwagon fans but they have the top fanbase in terms of sheer #s. We make fun of NE but they do have a great fanbase.
*Tom Brady/BB have a great fanbase,.. Fixed it for you. Like the OP said, Go back to 2000. No one cared about the Pats until they started winning regularly.
Oh but I thought our fanbase was an embarassment, right junc? For the better part of this franchise's existence they have been a disappointment, but hey after almost 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance, we're supposed to act like its all rainbows and sunshine.
when BP took over they started drawing, they drew well at times in the 80s too but in the late 80s/early 90s they stunk and did some bad stuff off the field turning off their fanbase.
the raiders are at the bottom? I... wouldn't peg raiders fans for being disloyal. and the packers seem too low as well. even if we're talking sheer numbers of fans this makes no sense...
Exactly my thoughts.Raiders have a very loyal fan base as does Miami. Maybe those teams have attendance problems..but why pay to see a losing product? that must factor in as a variable. Patriots do have some longtime die hards..but no way I'd ever put them top 5 much less top 2 in the NFL. WAY too many fair weather band wagoners who know Tom Brady & nothing else.
the raider fanbase is terrible, yes they have loyalty in the black hole but even when they were winning unless it was a prime time game or a playoff game they never came close to selling out. based on reputation I would rank GB as the #1 fanbase in terms of loyalty.
Just referring back to the sanchez pick 6 thread. And the fact that you say New England has a great fanbase just confirms that your schtick is to get a rise out of people. You argue for the sake of arguing. You're no better than the posters who want sanchez gone and make fun of him any chance they get.
The measure is based on box office revenue over the last three years, controlling for winning percentage. In other words Jets fans are more likely to buy tickets to games than you would predict based on the factors listed below. "The key idea is that we look at team box office revenues relative to team on-field success, market population, stadium capacity, median income and other factors"
unlike you I know what I am talking about, I have been to nearly every jet home game since 1990, I have been to NE pre and post SB wins but pretend like they are just bandwagon hoppers b/c that is the reputation. Miami has a large fanbase but they don't show up for games. Even in the good old days they struggled to sell out. [YOUTUBE]QQ9XzmuyLdc[/YOUTUBE]
I don't consider attending games the sole source of judging a fan base's loyalty. Afterall, what better way to tell an organization fans want change than to speak w/ empty seats? If you want to say that the dolphins have a crappy season ticket holder base..that's one thing.But I know a lot of lifelong Dolphin fans who have endured a lot of CRAP since 62-7.
The authors explicitly say that their analysis is based only on the last 3 seasons, so the issue of the pre-Brady Patriots is irrelevant. What I find questionable about their methodology is that it is based completely on box office revenue. This makes sense as a measure of fan interest for a baseball (162 games) or basketball or hockey (roughly 80 games) team, where there are usually far more seats available over the course of a season than can be sold, but it's a lot less interesting for an NFL team, since there are a lot fewer tickets available for general sale. The reason the Cowboys, Patriots, Jets, and Giants are at the top of the list is that they've sold out very expensive seats over the past 3 years, but that's hardly the only definition of a passionate fan base. We have no way of knowing for these teams if there is still a large segment of fans who want tickets but can't get them (indicating a good fan base), or hardly any people who want tickets and can't get them (indicating a much poorer one). On the other hand, I think the bottom of the rankings is more meaningful, since that corresponds to franchises that can't sell available tickets (or have closed down sections of the stadium). Even with the NFL being a TV-driven league that's never a good thing, and the bottom 8 or 9 teams are well-known to be ones with weak fan bases, or certainly weak attendance at least (San Francisco is a little surprising, perhaps).
Hypothetical question: If they dont win 3 Super Bowls, or any in this matter, do you still think they would have such a huge fan base?
i tought giants fanbase was bigger then the jets fanbase tbh , dont flame just readed back in the days
would it be National? of course not but they have a great fanbase in the NE area and it was great pre-Brady. It was more like us as a whiny fanbase pre-Brady but they still had a passionate fanbase.
Jets tickets cost a little more (increasing observed revenue), their record over the last 3 years is a little worse (decreasing predicted revenue), and both sell out every game. That makes the residual from the fitted regression higher for the Jets than for the Giants, and hence they are higher on the list. Clearly it has nothing to do with the actual relative size or passion of the two fanbases.
