In 2011, as I just pointed out. Only 8 other QBs threw more TD passes, and none of them worked for Schotty. Id be willing to bet, none of those 8 ran in more than 6.
There is no competition. Geno os the backup. Thats life. These guys hate it, but its been obvious from day one.
So,nwhat does that make the fuy that cant beat him out? Less than mediocre? Sanchez, has been flawed, to be sure..but exceptional, and playing for the worst OC in football. Period. He was a top 10 qB in terms of TD tosses, in 2011. Now, tell me about the 2011 Jets.,,oh, roght they brought in a guy to develop the redzone offense. sanchez tosses 26, runs in 6 more. Sanchez gets extension, Schotty gets fired, i guess I imagined that,
Dude, why is that sad.sanchez is a talented guy, as is Geno. Sanchez is finally getting a legit shot to run an offense. Geno, is a more physically talented player, getting a chance to develop. This is turning into a Favre/rodgers scenario.
How dare Rex honestly call Geno's performance brutal? Being truthful is so scary to The Genomes. The Genomes demand that Rex say Geno is Great even when Geno is brutal. The Genomes also demand that Geno start regardless of whether Geno is healthy and regardless of whether Geno has earned the starting job.
Once again, consistency is the key word. Something he has not proven over his career. At this point, nothing points towards that number NOT being an anomaly. Josh Freeman and Andy Dalton threw 27 TDs each, are they above average QBs? That year that Mark threw 26 TDs, guess who was right behind him at 24? If you guessed Ryan Fitzpatrick, you are right! In 2010, guess who threw 27 TDs? If you guessed the great Matt Cassel, you are correct!!! As I was saying, anomaly, NOT normality.
I knew Fitzpatrick was behind him. Did you want to talk about the players around them...or the OC. So, lets recap. Guy wins four playoff games in 2 years, including...in NE.amd In Indy, then...the next year puts up 32 scores,,, And 2011, not 2012 is the anomaly? You meant that to be a joke, right? Recap. One of two with 4 playoff wins, first two years (ben) One of five fastest EVER, to 30 wins 32 scores the next year. 4 years one losing season, with no OC, and major offensive injuries. Yeah. This guy sucks. Outscored Brett Favre under the same OC. (by 8 scores) while Favre only turned it over 3 less times. Consider that. QB performance in 2008....by a vet who knew his shit...against 2011, by the greenest draftee to start at the position, that had never played n a different offense in the NFL.
Yeah, I agree with all of that. My main argument this entire offseason has been that it is not time to give up on Sanchez yet. Many fans blamed 2012 on him. I can never understand how they think that way. So much was wrong with the team, I can't even name it all. Still, like you said, Sanchez has never been a very good QB. All you have to do is look around the league and see how the top QB's truly perform. I just feel he is not near as bad as people make him out to be either.
Haha that's great :lol: Just saying this next preseason game can't come soon enough. And I hope Geno does more than just hand the ball off, I wanna see what he can do.
Excellent post and pretty accurate, Mark isn't as bad as people make him out to be although at times he has played as bad as a starting QB in the NFL can. There are factors that play into it such as lack of weapons or a decent OC but at the end of the day Mark has the skill set but he doesn't have the confidence. You give him confidence and talent aroun him and Mark can be the QB who wins games for this team, sadly without the confidence or weapons he is the guy who loses games for the team.
Me roo. But tou know how fuckfarded this is, i am watching the replay on NFL net. 4:05 left, with Sackelry playing..,they throw up the Jets/Jags advertisement..using a cgi of Geno throwing a TD pass..,fcol. Stoke some controversy.
And thats it. So doesnt a guy with his resume, get the benefit of the doubt, till we see what happens with a real OC? We still dont have talent around him, like other offensive teams. But ...yes or no.,,hasnt he earned the benefit of the doubt?
Most of my predictions, have beenfairly obvious. Garrard not seeing week one. Sanchez starting week one. Jets winning 11 (see testaverdes sig). Now, instead of the obvious..,,i will go out on a limb. Sanchez, can be scary good. We have seen this poor bastard perform, with shit oc and shit talent, With a real OC, and a familiar offense, sanchez will be acary good. Write it down, hold me to it. I already said, i would quit the board, if he didnt have a career year. On the scoring drive, he hit 3 pressure plays, for 20plus yards. And the TD pass, was the same play that iced the JVille game. I said this a while back, commenting about Keller. Cumberland..,will have the better year,
I agree with you that the Jets were not looking to draft Geno, it makes zero sense to draft him actually. He was a suprise drop to 39, and the jets took him for being a quality pick. Geno was not the Qb Jets were going to take, if they wanted him so badly they wouldve scooped him up with their 2 nd pick. Nobody predicted and coudlve predicted his drop to #39. The most important reason why Jets were not takiing Geno is Morningwood and the westcoast offense. No way you draft Smith to run a WC within a year. However, Garrards injury forced Smith in a so called qb competition with Sanchez. Garrard was going to be a serious candidate for the starting job, except he is more qualified for disability than to be a starting qb. Smith seems like a student of the game, mixed in with a diva/ swag crap mentality. He is a gym rat who tries to play to the other crowd, ex: sigining with Jay Z's Agency. Once he matures, settles in his own skin sky is the limit. GM Idzik was hoping Smith would wow everyone and win the starting job, I think Smith had every chance in the world to win the job. He had access to Morningwood, as they were staying in the same hotel during ota's. They would drive to facility together. You get the picture. However as a rookie learning a new system, ny media, nfl speed, etc are hard to overcome in a year. The Jets want to take of the training wheels off of Smith but he is simply not mentally fast enough to handle the pressure, ie; Holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. In a live NFL game holding the ball too long means getting clobbered and fumbling (Smith is a known fumbler.) Sanchez is earning the starting job and like others are pointing out that is a great thing, since he might A- Win games for us, B- Increase his trade value C- Take us to the PLayoffs and be a legitimate qb with a decent contract lol. Smith sitting down and watching the ups and downs of the game and media scrutiny will no doubt help him whether it be week 6 this year or the future.
You look at his career from a pure quarterbacking stand point, and not a team stand point, and yes, 2011 and 32 TDs is an anomaly. Thats not even an argument. 2011 is the only year he had over 17 TDs. Every other QB stat is relatively similar with his entire career- lots of turnovers, low completion percentage, and bottom of the league in yards. As far as the playoffs- in 2009, I think you can plug in any QB and there's an argument that we can make the playoffs in a similar manner. Bottom line, Sanchez was not a reason to why we were in the playoffs. In 2010, I think he played a bigger role and helped us win some games, but he still made a good amount of mistakes and was far from perfect and most important consistent. Basically, what it comes down to, you keep naming team goals for Sanchez. Clearly, this was a team that was built to win around a Qb rather than by the QB when it was successful. Its far different to name playoff appearances for example if we are talking about Sanchez compared to RG3, Luck or Wilson. They were relied on by their teams to win games rather than them relying on their teams to win games.
Does no one know what BPA means? In terms of the draft, it was clear that the Jets MO was BPA. As Idzik said, Richardson was a top 4 player on their board. As a rebuilding team, you stick to your board. They did, and they were repaid with the player they were looking at along with Richardson at 13, falling into their lap at 39. They dont heavily think about a player at 13 if he's not the player they want at the position, or if he doesnt fit into their scheme.
