I'm not worried about our QB situation

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  1. NFL

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    I think that we should give Brandon Moore a call. Our OLine did not open any holes last night. And if we're gonna give Peterman a shot, why not have Moore? He's a better player, and he's still productive at his age.

    If Shonn Greene can get 1000 yards behind that OLine, Chris Ivory should be able to do the same behind the same line other than an upgrade with either Winters or Colon.
     
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  2. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    How did winters look last night?
     
  3. TonyMaC

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    he wasn't there, so much better than peterman.
     
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    We'll need our offensive line to set the tone for both our run game along with protection for our Quarterbacks but our offense has lots of potential heading into 2013. Especially with Marty Mornhinweg working with our Quarterbacks/calling our offensive plays throughout the course of ball games.

    When compared to Sparano who had zero experience as an offensive coordinator, Mornhinweg is an A+ type of upgrade.

    Marty was the offensive coordinator for the Eagles from 2006-2012. In 2006 Philly ranked 2nd in offensive yards and 6th in points scored.

    In 2007 Philly ranked 6th in offensive yards and 17th in scoring.

    In 2008 Philly ranked 9th in offensive yards and 6th in scoring.

    In 2009 Philly ranked 11th in offensive yards and 5th in scoring.

    In 2010 Philly ranked 2nd in offensive yards and 3rd in scoring.

    In 2011 Philly ranked 4th in offensive yardage and 8th in scoring.

    And last year Philly ranked 15th in offensive yardage and 29th in scoring (down year for his offense).

    Outside of last season during 2006-2011 his offense finished with an average ranking (combined) of 5.6 in offensive yardage and 7.5 in scoring. Didn't factor in last years production into his average ranking only because I believe it would've diminished/skewed his true success as an offensive coordinator over the years. I'd consider him a top 10 offensive coordinator and borderline top 5.

    I believe one of either Joe McKnight or Mike Goodson is going to flourish under Marty (when in regards to catching out of the backfield). Marty had his hands on Brian Westbrook through 2006-2009. During those 4 seasons Westbrook put up 246 receptions. Same goes for LeSean McCoy who's put up 220 receptions during his 4 seasons with Marty calling the X's and O's. We're now featuring an offensive coordinator who knows exactly how to utilize quick/shifty RB's which is why I have high hopes for not only Ivory as our featured back but also Goodson, McKnight and Powell as backups. Another reason why it was time for Shonn Greene to go. I liked the kid as a short yardage back, but I don't believe he would've flourished under our new offensive coordinator's approach to the running back position.

    Marty also knows how to use his WR's while getting the most out of their talents/ability. The speed the Stephen Hill has can translate to the speed that DeSean Jackson has. The difference is that DeSean is only 5'10/175 when compared to Hill who's a freak at 6'4/215. With Hill's speed and size along with Mornhinweg calling the X's and O's, this is the season where Hill becomes a household name. Same goes for Jeremy Kerley. Just about the same size as Jeremy Maclin. Maclin's 6'0/198 when compared to Kerley who's 5'9/188. Kerley is going to flourish (due to his ability to get open).

    If we can get out of Hill and Kerley what Philly had out of Maclin and Jackson our offense will be fun to watch. Then you have veteran WR's such as Edwards and Holmes along with pass catching TE's such as Winslow Jr. along with a healthy Cumberland. All the playmaking pieces are in place for our Quarterbacks regardless if we go the route of Sanchez or Geno.

    Stephen Hill.
    Braylon Edwards.
    Jeremy Kerley.
    Santonio Holmes (injured).
    Kellen Winslow Jr.
    Jeff Cumberland.

    Even without Holmes we have lots of players who can contribute down field. Kerley is developing into a natural slot WR. Kid's a game changer. I also love the fact that until Holmes returns, we have two WR's on the outside in Braylon Edwards and Stephen Hill who both have great run blocking ability (for outside WR's).

    I'm not sold on our offensive line but this is more than just Sanchez vs. Geno. It's about finally having an offensive coordinator with a proven track record along with lots of football players surrounding these QB's. Ivory/Goodson/McKnight/Powell, Hill, Edwards, Kerley, Winslow Jr., Cumberland and Holmes? Our offensive coordinator has weapons to work with. We all know the potential of our defense (will need to lead us in order to go deep) but I'm also looking forward to our offense featuring A.) Players and B.) A proven OC.

    I'm personally excited for the potential of this offense.
     
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    Sanchez can't touch Romo. All of the other guys were right around where Sanchez was last year except for Gabbert. Gabbert is terrible.
     
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    I'm also excited with the potential of this offense, but Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell had potential as well. Talent doesn't guarantee that a player will pan out just as potential doesn't guarantee a team will pan out.

    Look at the Eagles over the last couple of seasons. They are a top 5 team every year in terms of talent yet they haven't been doing shit. The Bills picked up some great talent last year in the draft/FA, but they still blew chunks.

    If everyone stays healthy, I believe this offense can be a top 15-20. It's built more for the future than it is for the upcoming season. I think that's why I like it so much. We're actually building through the draft for once.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    They are both fast food, so I get the comparison.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Pennington was the highest rated QB of all time for a short while and couldn't complete a sideline route to save his own life.
     
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    Only because of injury. Multiple injuries limited Pennington's throwing ability when in regards to strength but prior to Pennington getting hurt he could make any throw on the football field. Accuracy was one of the greatest I've ever seen as well. Borderline great quarterback but after injuries, just took it's toll on Pennington especially when in regards to out routes (lost his zip).
     
  10. Jeti

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    Our receivers don't fit the WCO outside of Kerley

    Watching Geno hit Braylon and him not turn that into 5-6 more yards sucks

    I say keep Hill as the vertical threat but we need a receiver who thrives in YAC, Marqise Lee is a must in the draft
     
  11. Br4d

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    Things that looked a bit raw to me:

    1. Footwork. Geno shuffled around in the pocket a fair amount. His footwork did not look precise yet. To be good in a WCO, or most other Pro sets, you have to have very good footwork.

    2. General pocket presence. Geno back-pedaled on a couple of passes under moderate pressure. He got fairly deep in the backfield on at least one of them before he let the ball go. A good rule of thumb is that if a sack would be for more than 10 yards the QB has gotten too deep in the pocket before he made a decision.

    3. Staring down his primary read. This happened at least twice in the brief time Geno was on the field. One of the passes was to Bilal Powell and when Geno let it go I was worried that Powell was going to get clobbered because Geno hadn't looked anywhere else and Powell was in big man's land.

    Geno did some good things also, primarily hitting his checkdowns when he didn't see much else there and putting some good velocity on the ball across the middle. He didn't look fully ready to go yet. Hopefully he's good to go by opening day.
     
  12. Dirty6Sanchez

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    bottom line is we should have at least a decent offense if they play either Smith or McElroy.
    el taco loco, the human td turnover machine, should be super-glued to a clipboard and the bench.
     
  14. Jake

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    The bottom line is we've already doubled the amount of TDs we got last yr in preseason.

    Lmao
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm well aware of his career.

    Borderline great but after injuries... what?

    He injured that shoulder a little over two years after he became a starter - week 9 of the 2004 season. After that, he was consistently accurate only on short passes and some inside intermediate passes.

    Anything that required range or velocity was mediocre at best.

    Maybe he was borderline great at throwing slants and dump-offs, but that stupid QB rating did not take into account situational football.

    He was a very smart QB, but also a very limited one.
     
  16. mr nyjet

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    he was his own worst enemy. he ate up so much of the salary cap that the team had to let 3 starting offensive lineman walk because they could not afford to re-sign them.

    it was like using all your money to buy a vette, then driving it with no insurance cause you had no money left to afford the premiums.

    kind of reminds you of el taco loco, and his guaranteed contract/cap hit.
    in this case, we are doing the el-cheapo thing with the backs and wide outs
    3 players ( el taco, tone, and harris) are strangling the cap. but harris at least isn't serving up td passes to the other team.
     
  17. mr nyjet

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    and McElroy was the only qb who could put up that td last summer.

    still, el taco serves up as many to the other team as to his own.

    whether it is McElroy or smith, i'd rather play the guy who doesn't give the other team a 1 or 2 td edge even before the game starts.:sad:
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're talking about Pennington? His contract was actually manageable.

    The reason the Jets had so many cap problems during that era was because Parcells backloaded a ridiculous contract for Vinny, and cap genius Tanny kept restructuring Curtis's deal to compensate, which only prolonged the agony.

    The cap woes of the early part of last decade were directly attributable to Parcells pretending he was a front office guy. It had nothing to do with Chad.

    The reason that the OL suffered was because Bradway refused to address the position seriously.
     
  19. Jeti

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    Honestly we need to cut Mark and groom Geno

    He needs to be developed and the main focus of the team not fixing Sanchez

    Imagine how much further along Geno would be if he was getting all the reps with the ones and getting the focus of the CS

    If Andy fucking Dalton could get the Bengals to do that then the Jets should do the same with Geno
     
  20. Jake

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    ^Cutting Sanchez would result in a cap hit of $17m. We cant cut him if we want to field a team this yr. I dont know how many times this needs to be pointed out here. The guy who gave him that contract was aptly fired in February.
     

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