Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I (and the majority of the fans) give him credit for that last drive, but he still made the same mistakes that haunted him his entire career. He made some nice throws (which he does on occasions) but also some bad throws (Winslow near INT, slightly overthrowing Powell, throwing at Powell's feet, overthrow to Kerley) you still see a lot of the mistakes, and yes he gets credit for a nice drive, but one drive in the preseason doesn't undo 2 years of damage.
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I swear you can never just give full blame for Sanchez fuck ups. The play ended up blowing up so he should have thrown the fucking ball away, end of fucking discussion.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, I swear you can never learn to fucking read.

    Its marks fault, for throwing the football to a guy he didnt bother to look for.

    Ive said that 90 times since last night.


    That doesnt change the other facets ofthe play.

    I beleive I used the adjectives, moron, and dumbass.

    If those words arent in your dictionary, they are in your mirror.


    You guys will do anything to keep arguing about Sanchez

    READING IS FUNDAMENTAL....

    end of fucking discussion.
     
  4. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    he made a big mistake early but remained poised and ended with a beautifully orchestrated drive that resulted in a perfectly thrown td pass to a wide open tight end.

    it was a decent night for the offense all things considered.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Lets face it...the hate here is going to turn to outrage, as Sanchez continues to improve under MM, like he did under Moore.

    We have the worst Fan base in all of sports.

    I look at last nights box score, and see three QBs with no running game, finish in the mid to high 90s...and think thats a pretty good day for the Jets.

    One really bad play, and we are back to the Snacks interception.


    While installing a new offense no less.

    Pathetic.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    10/13. 9.5 YPA. 99.8, which minus the INT would probably double his career passer rating.

    Whining because he isnt perfect. On the first preseason game, with a new offense (3 in 3 years)

    Pathetic.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    For anyone watching Schottenheimers offense for 6 years, it was amazing ro actually see...tou know...open recievers.
     
  8. GoldenShowers

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    Anyone who watched Mark last night and thought he looked any different from last year is delusional.

    - inaccurate
    - horrible decision making
    - complete inability to diagnose a blitz

    That Geno isn't winning this job, in an NFL that now sees rookie QBs start from day 1 every year, is a bad but predictable sign.
     
  9. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    If it's Sanchez fault then those other facets are irrelevant you fucking dunce. You can't say it's his fault but then say well xyz. That doesn't make sense you dyslexic idiot.
     
  10. laxin

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    No its not because he wasnt perfect. Its because the same dumbass decisions that has held him back since year 1 are still being made. And then he has the nerve to say things like that do not matter.
     
  11. The 1985er

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    Yes he looked poised and made a few nice throws. The big concerns on offense is the running game and the oline being undisciplined. Overall there were some things to be encouraged about, but the negatives far outweigh the few positives. Geno made a few decent throws but his night ended with that injury, I wanted to see him play a few more series. The run game was a mess and then Griffin getting hurt after a nice run sucked. Sanchez first two series weren't very good. Even on that last drive he still had at least one or two of his signature bad throws. I'm still not sold on Sanchez but like I said I'll give him his credit he played decent on that final drive.
     
  12. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    That's the same thing I'm saying. The receivers caught a few of his shitty passes even on that last drive. I'm just happy that the offense looks a little better. But watching him play last night does not change my opinion about Sanchez. He still sucks. Geno didn't standout but he made a few decent throws, and I think the coaches did that on purpose just to get his feet wet. I hope they open up the playcalling in the next few games. Right now Sanchez is in the lead IMO, and I'm at peace with the possibility of Sanchez starting week 1.
     
  13. Jake

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    Screens are a big part of MMs offense. That's the discouraging thing, Sanchez needs to see the lanes better, hes been trying to learn that for 4 yrs already. He looked decisive the rest of the way, though, I will give him that. The TD drive featured some busted coverages, but at least he recognized them. I guess....
     
  14. chinopec

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    Lets be honest even on the touchdown series, first play with kerley the lions player fell down so he was wide open. If mark cant even hit a wide open guy they we are in even more trouble then we thought. The touchdown pass to Cumberland it looked like two lions almost ran into each other with one falling down. So again he was wide open. So his most successful series was due to horrible plays by the lions, not by his amazing play. So lets not praise him that much.
     
  15. slimjasi

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    I've personally considered this possibility many times. I still think he's poorly programmed bot, myself.
     
  16. slimjasi

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    Considering I know of no quarterback who consistently fucks screen passes up on a more consistent basis, this is a problem, and yet another reason to want Geno Smith to win the job.
     
  17. 1968jetsfan

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    Improve? Lets see, the interception. I've watched this play 3 dozen times on the internet now.

    Sanchez is peddling backwards, he's LOOKING RIGHT AT where he's going to throw the ball the entire time, he still throws the ball! Now if you watch this play repeatedly you see 3 things.

    One Sanchez peddling backwards,

    Two You see the play at scrimmage where the FB goes down on contact at, or just behind the line of scrimmage, that play is NEVER going to draw a flag, NEVER. Defenders are allowed to make contact with RB's coming through the line on what could be read as a running play/draw play. that's NEVER going to draw a flag.

    Three, and most importantly, even IF the FB doesn't get knocked down that's still an interception, the ball never gets to where the FB would have been. Yes LT got beat, but Sanchez was LOOKING right there, he saw it BEFORE he threw a lollypop floater to Ziggy, and he STILL THREW the damned ball there. The play broke down, Sanchez was LOOKING RIGHT AT IT AND STILL DID THE WRONG THING! This is a 5th year player still making rookie mistakes!

    But lets look at another screen pass also to the Fullback. He's wide open and Sanchez lollygags the throw to him low and behind him, should the FB have caught the pass? maybe, but it would have been a great catch...and here's the point. A wide open receiver on a screen pass with Sanchez having a clean pocket and he still delivers the ball in such a way that even if the FB catches it any YAC are gone, as it is the FB leans back tips the ball and if it had tipped any higher would have been a possible INT.

    But that's not the end of it, Sanchez throws a third possible INT that is only broken up because the TE made a great hit knocking the ball loose.

    Now Sanchez did put up a decent stat line, and this is one time I'll agree with Junc, stats can be deceiving on a 1 game basis. In this case all of Marks numbers came with the #1 offense against the Lions #2 defensive unit. And most of the big plays came off of busted coverage by that #2 unit. Against the number 1 unit Sanchez nearly had 2 pick sixes, and with a little bad luck a third potential pick six.

    I'm a believer in stats, but not single game stats, when you look at stats as a collection and look at the baseline from a large sample of stats you get a true picture, single game stats don't tend to be reflective as they are subject to great deals of statistical noise.

    But watch the game footage, watch it closely. Mark makes only 2 or 3 good passes, and 4-5 bad passes.

    To say anything other is being disingenuous.
     
  18. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    to be fair there were at least some first teamers in on defense. there i am sure were some second teamers too.

    i wish i had done a play by play for the entire night last night i only did a handful of plays but play by play it was pretty rough of a performance.
     
  19. Testaverde

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    For those who are pumping up MM for Sanchez's QB rating, here are Sanchez's stats from the first pre-season games for each year under Schottenheimer.

    2009:
    3/4, 88 YDS, 0 TD, 0 Int
    QB Rating 116.6

    2010:
    13/17, 119 YDS, 1 TD, 1 Int
    QB Rating 90

    2011:
    6/7, 43 YDS, 0 TD, 0 Int
    QB Rating 92.2

    Total 22-28, 250 YDS, 1 TD, 1 Int.
    QB Rating 100.8
    78% Completion
    8.9 Y/A


    Not much has changed! The fact he went 10-13 last night doesn't impress anyone but the fanboys. It is only pre-season but Sanchez showed that nothing has changed. He is the same inconsistent turnover machine he has been his entire career.
     
  20. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Suh was in on Sanchez's TD drive...few other D-linemen were in too
     
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