It is not irrelevant to me. We have had much better teams throughout the years than this current team we have and have only won 11 games just 4 times in our history. That tells me the likely hood of us winning 11 games this year is slim to none. That is not the only thing that tells me that but it is a small part of it. I don't care what you think about my logic. It's always worked out pretty well for me. We will see how my faulty logic turns out after the season compared to your logic that leads you to believe that we will win 11 games.
"Dolphins and almost with the Patriots" = only with Dolphins, hardly a pattern. Besides, I was talking about Bills. Of course, Buffalo didn't beat us since Sanchez's 5-INT game, so if you think Bills are getting one this season, winning in Buffalo would make more plausible.
Did you join this forum because our optimism bothers you? You should see some of your 'delusional' bill friends who come over to this forum during Jets vs Bills games. Especially last year when the Jets laid a giant whooping week 1. What is even more amusing is that your great team could not stop that weak offense. I mean, how is it that the jets can put down 24+ points against the bills with a lack of talent? If you had problems stopping that offense, good luck with this years offense.
I'm looking at it differently. Our O can't be any worse than last year and D will always be formidable as long as Rex is around. Now, you can make the argument that the rest of the division is also improved, but to me it's only the Phins. I don't buy into the Pats overcoming their losses, I think it'll be a major down year for them. The schedule is also more favorable than last year and all together it should amount to a better year. I don't think Jets are playoff team, but 0.5 on the season sounds about right.
Vs The Bucs - L At The Patriots - L Vs The Bills - W At The Titans - W At The Falcons - L Vs The Steelers - L Vs The Patriots - L At The Bengals - L Vs The Saints - L At The Bills - L At The Ravens - L Vs The Dolphins - L Vs The Raiders - W At The Panthers - L Vs The Browns - W At The Dolphins - W
Jets won 6 games last season with inferior offensive coaching and talent. Jets now have better talent (as long as they stay healthy) and a huge upgrade in coaching. We can go anywhere from 4 wins to capping it at 10.
hard to see anything more than 6 with the schedule and state of our offense...i could see us picking up some wins at the end against oakland, cleveland, and carolina, but going into the bye we could be looking at 1-3 wins
9-7 Vs The Bucs - W At The Patriots - W Vs The Bills - W At The Titans - W At The Falcons - L Vs The Steelers - L Vs The Patriots - L At The Bengals - L Vs The Saints - L At The Bills - W At The Ravens - L Vs The Dolphins - W Vs The Raiders - W At The Panthers - L Vs The Browns - W At The Dolphins - W
Could happen. I said the Jets lose the Pathers game but I think the game will be a coin flip. Umm, and I said Jets lose to Steelers but I could see that game being close as well. I think whats important for a successful season is sweeping the Dolphins and Bills.
[Okay, so 2010 didn't exist. We didn't win 11 with Mark at the helm.[/QUOTE] Actually we went 10-5 with Sanchez "at the helm" that season .... Or some might say despite Sanchez. Our roster was loaded with talent and we still had to pull 4 of those games out of the fire against lesser opponents because we underperformed for 58 minutes. Sanchez played Ok for much of that season, but by OK I mean he didn't completely kill us week in and week out ... Which was really all we needed from our QB that season. Any Jet fan knows that the weakest link on that 2010 team was the Quarterback ... As it remains today. We steamrolled the Bills in that final game when Sanchez didn't even play. A testament to just how strong the overall roster was that year. These days we need our QB to do much more. Unfortunately, he can't. How do we know that? Because he's been asked to do more for the past two seasons and he completely shit the bed. He can't elevate the play of his supporting cast. He needs to be carried by it. That's why we'll need a pile of big plays from the defense and special teams every week to win more than 5 or 6 games. Not likely to happen. Much more likely our season will be over at the BYE. We desperately need Geno Smith to start if we want to have a legit chance of enjoying the season. Maybe he will be named the starter. If so, I might change my W/L expectations. If Mark starts, I'm digging in for a lost first half of the season, waiting for Geno to take over after the BYE, and looking towards the 2014 draft. For the record, year in and year out I'm one of the most optimistic Jet fans you'll find. But I can't get past the simple fact that this roster can't win with the worst QB in football. We're just not good enough to overcome that.
11-5 is my incredibly optimistic outlook, as I said. Realistically I'm thinking 8-8 or 9-7. I see 7-9 at absolute worst (shit hits the fan, Sanchez plays like a turnover machine, major injuries on D). I'm not saying this team is the best Jets team ever or anything, but that's not your argument anyways. Your argument is that since it's only happened 4 times out of 40+ years that it likely won't happen this year. If you study statistics and probability, the longer a streak continues the greater chance that it gets broken. You seem to like to bet the streak, which can be a viable strategy at times, but the odds stack up against you more each time. So each year that goes by without a super bowl title, the better the chances of it eventually happening again. Anyways, all I'm really saying is that there is no logical connection with how many times it's happened in the past and whether it happens this year. The same argument could have been said before 2010. If you want to argue talent on the team, I could see that.
Who the f*** are you, Kanye West? Jet fans, I'm really happy for you and I'ma let you finish ... This is the NFL bro. Any team can win more than 6 games. Things change from year to year if you haven't noticed..
I see where you're coming from but it happens more often than you realize. 2002: Patriots 2006: Patriots, Bills, 2008: Miami, Patriots 2009: Buffalo 2010: Miami 2012: Miami So it's happened 8 times in the past 10 years (and in 5 of the last 7 seasons). It's not that uncommon. The Jets have been known to be road warriors, especially when the road games come early in the season. Any given Sunday. Home field advantage is a little over rated, unless you're in a dome or playing a team at home that doesn't play much in windy weather. Seriously how many times have we seen the Jets suck donkey balls at home when we're expecting much much better? Comparing the first NE game on the road last season with the Jets at home was like night and day.
Yeah, the Bills got smoked week 1, and then smoked the Jets week 17. A split. Which is the most likely outcome this year yet again, as both our teams finish in the 4-12 to 7-9 range
Vs The Bucs - L At The Patriots - L Vs The Bills - W At The Titans - L At The Falcons - L Vs The Steelers - L Vs The Patriots - L At The Bengals - L Vs The Saints - L At The Bills - L At The Ravens - L Vs The Dolphins - L Vs The Raiders - W At The Panthers - L Vs The Browns - W At The Dolphins - L
That is only a small part of my argument. The current talent is a much bigger reason for my prediction. The only thing I consider with only doing it 4 times in the past is that we have had much better talent in years past and have only won 11 or more games 4 times. Call me superstitious pessimistic or whatever but that fact that we have only won 11 or more games in a season just 4 times in our history tells me that this current team with the lack of talent we have isn't going to get it done. The biggest key is the current talent.
