Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The media(and fans) can eat a player up, I don't believe in allowing the media or fans to dictate anything but it is something you have to consider. The player has to be mentally tough enough to overcome b/c even the best players are bashed and booed at times which doesn't happen in many other Cities.

    Can you translate this post to English please?

    I get you feel bad about having your post torn apart but AGAIN it's not accurate as we were discussing mark Sanchez's season not the Jets season. mark played 15 games not 16.


    I found an interesting quote after we beat NE in the div rd in the 2010 season from Peter King:

    It's something some of you guys will never understand, you will continue to post blind stats/rankings as if they tell us everything we need to know but those that understand the game get it. it's too bad we have so few of them on this board
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Tannehill, had his offense imported. (and not Schottys ridiculous Coryell system) He'll still be average at best this year.

    To be fair to Gabbert, id say he has the same issues however, despite your assertion..they did get him a blue chip receiving prospect. 5 overall no? I dont recall the Jets taking a high first round WR?

    However, using Kellers draft status, belies his actual productivity. hes been mediocre. And Im on record with that. Yes we had a decent OL, and Edwards was a very good player, but you cant blame Sanchez, because the FO didn't keep him, and no it wasnt money, it was the DUI....unfairly, if he was a Vagiant, the media would have been
    .."huh...what?."


    However the deeper issue....with Schottenheimer, is the TYPE of offense he runs. Its Antiquated, and just doesnt work. Yet...as you pointed out, the two years we had a right tackle, and average talent..lSanchez was successful despite being ridiculously green. And managed 32 scores in The first year of his "decline"

    Your math may differ from mine, but thats 2 scores a game, on average. One more from a RB, and a FG, is 24, thought to be the general guide for winning games.


    2012, really? No oc, no skill players.

    Thats really The point. The Jets, have a guy that was successful..somewhat....in a bad system with...average(almost) talent....if the Jets can get him to play in a system thats more suited to his ability, with Geno here QB isnt an issue until the next decade...this team hasnt had a decent pair of QBs in a very long time.
     
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  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    ^I agree with the article^

    I don't think I've ever booed our team or a player. If I'm displeased, I'd rather just STFU than boo.... accomplishes nothing except discourage the player or team even more
     
  5. JETlife14

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    True. Is Geno the same prospect as Luck or RGIII? No. Do the Jets play in seattle with no pressure or media spotlight or have Marshawn Lynch? No.

    In this situation, with the media spotlight, lack of offensive talent and new playbook, it's more beneficial for Geno to sit and learn for a little while.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    That is how I am, I don't even boo opposing players/teams. I feel silly booing. I do it as a joke sometimes but never serious.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I finally get it. Junc you are Manish Mehta. I was certain when I read "Jets fans don't deserve Sanchez..." LOL

    Jets fans aren't any different than any other fan base. Mark Sanchez had led the league in turnovers, WTF does he think people are going to do when he turns the ball over again... practice, warmups, etc, It doesn't matter. He could play in ANY city and if he had a similar career path, he'd been booed for throwing an interception in that scrimmage.

    Mehta can S.T.F.U. This is the same guy who threw any kind of gasoline he could find on last years fire. He sensationalized the shit out of this team, now he wants to act like it's the fans with no class? What a joke..
     
  8. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    This team doesn't deserve fans who don't boo.
     
  9. JETlife14

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    Tom Brady didn't. Bullshit argument. We can't nitpick players and act like that's the same situation as Geno's.

    He had AJ Green. He played in Cincinnati. Also a 2nd round pick so who's to say Geno's more talented?
     
  10. Section 227. Row 5

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    My opinion is that no team should ever take "media spotlight" into consideration when they make decisions about player personnel. What I'm saying is, where do you draw the line? In Seattle it's okay to make a decision that's not media-friend.y, but in NY you create problems by doing so? Okay then, but what about Chicago or Kansas City. Are those locations okay or not okay?

    So no, you sit your players down at the begining of the season and tell them to ignore the media. Then you tell the same thing to your trainers adn coaches and tell them to STFU with the media and don't give them fodder.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Jet fans are different than most but not all. To boo in practice is just silly. it is sad people who are upset w/ their own lives that need to take it out on others. It isn't productive, we don't need to pretend everything is great but to boo especially a guy who is having a good camp overall and a player that we may need to help us win.

    It's sad, I feel bad for the people who act like that.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

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    Yup . Turnovers. Criticize him for that.

    Then deny credit for his playoff victories (with a 3-1 td-int ratio) by claiming the team carried him there.

    Menta is right.
     
  13. Section 227. Row 5

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    Drunks and fools boo. Throw in people with low self-esteem. Sometimes I'l groan at an INT, or go "Ooohhh Man!"

    But to stand up like an asshole and cup your mouth and boo like a little whining 5-year old is beyond ignorant. Unless they can say they walked in that person's shoes for awhile were in that position and never threw that kind of pass in their lives, they should sit down and STFU already.

    Besides, you're blocking my view (well.. used to . Now that I have my Row Ones I don't have to deal with it).
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Get off your mighty horsey. Booing Sanchez for throwing YET another INT, has nothing to do with someone's personal life..

    I know it's hard for you to believe, but doesn't it make more sense that maybe just maybe people are freakin sick and tired of seeing their team's QB continue to make the same mistakes day after day, rather than some kind of underlying personal issue?
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    :grin::up::jets:
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he's had a good camp by all accounts, we may need him to play for us this year. What purpose does it serve to boo him in training camp? we want him beat down where he can't perform or doesn't want to for us anymore? How dopes that help our team?

    I 100% believe it is sad people booing, people upset w/ their own lives for whatever reason that feel the need to take it out on players and coaches. Obviously that doesn't describe everyone who boos but I'd bet 70-80% or so.
     
  17. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    So the next time Sanchez tosses another red zone INT this fall, I'll take a swig of my 15 dollar beer and scream from my ridiculously overpriced 500 level seat in the Metlife concrete jungle - "It's okay guys! He has four playoff victories! A 3-1 ratio in the playoffs!"
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    nah, act like a drunken jackass and boo a man that can do something the rest of us cannot do. That will show him!
     
  19. JETlife14

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    I know it's annoying to hear about. BUT it's true and can't be ignored. We helped bring this media spotlight upon ourselves. It's tough enough being a rookie QB and it's tough enough being a QB in New York.

    Unfortunately, Geno will be criticized for every single thing he does. You don't think that takes a toll?

    I just don't want to put the kid in a position to fail.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    You are still talking about a guy, that got you to 1 step from the playoffs, twice. Has one losing season. In his .500 season, put up 32 scores, with the team being second in RZ efficiency.

    The guy has earned the respect he isnt getting, and a large part of it is the media climate surrounding the team.


    The scrimmage was a perfect example. Ended the game with a 57 yard TD.

    The simple fact is, the only real argument that counters (sorry Junc) the fact that Sanchez, has been mildly successful despite shit coaching, is the retarded" BRADFORD HAD A CAREER YEAR" retardedness.

    No, he was a third year player, had JacKson, at RB, and....finished 23rd in total offense.

    Sanchez, most productive season, 2011, when Moore was brought aboard, and he had no RT, and put up 32 scores....


    Remind me again, when a Jets QB was giving you wins against NE, and In the playoffs?

    2002?

    Mehta is right.
     
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