NFL RBs don't need to practice handoffs. Ivory is around to learn the system. With one practice a day, the team spends time on Xs and Os in the classroom. Plus RB is fairly simple. On this play you take the handoff and hit the X hole. If that hole is not open, improvise. The only issue I can see is if the blocking schemes on the OL are different. Does anyone know if NO runs a zone blocking scheme? If not, there is not much for him to pick up. A RB can join a team on a Tuesday and gain 100 yards on Sunday no problem. That is why this is overblown.
Greenday, I hope I'm not out of line being a newbie and all, but I just wanted to say this. It is a bad thing as opposed to them both being there at TC, but it's not as much a concern as most other positions would be. Not minimizing it, but keeping it in perspective.
Your entire post gets negated by the final 2 sentences. McNugget is a wide receiver that was miscast as RB during his college career. If the Jets' backs were all healthy and in camp, we'd know more about the situation than the question mark it continues to be. Saying it would suck regardless is kind of a typically trollish comment, especially when you couple that with rooting for a guy that is so obviously going to fail at RB due to his skillset.
Yeah they do. Its more the O line getting to know the tendencies of the back rather than improvisation etc.. Having our #1 and #2 not here until...? Really sucks and good teams don't win games this way. Whats happened is unfortunate and I'm sure things will be 'alright on the night', but as a fan I really would have preferred to see the who team learning together.
Powell showed a little of what he can do with a decent amount of reps. He's severely underrated by the fans and the Jets.
I liked some of the things Powell showed last season, but they kept running Greene out there. Bilal has good field vision, cutbacks and tackle breaking ability. Powell, in a perfect world, should be in the running for the starting job. No pun intended.
I'm not worried about our current RB situation because I feel we're pretty deep (depth wise) but I strongly disagree with your post above. Adrian Peterson is pure greatness but the likes of Ray Rice, Arian Foster, Matt Forte, Darren McFadden (when healthy), LeSean McCoy, Frank Gore, Chris Johnson, Marshawn Lynch, Jamaal Charles (along with a few others) are all game changers. In which create for big time impact come Sunday's. Put any one of these backs in our backfield and the entire complexion of our offensive attack is improved especially with a back such as McCoy, Rice, Charles or Forte (love their playing styles). So I strongly disagree with your thoughts on RB's holding zero value these days. Just because we haven't had a great/elite back dating back to Martin and/or the league is quarterback driven doesn't mean that the position is dead. You give our Jets an elite back and our entire offense is improved. Better yet give a Manning or Brady type an elite back and there offensive attack becomes impossible to contain let alone stop. When Rivers had Tomlinson within LT's prime, those Chargers were deadly along with an elite pass catching TE in Gates. Sorry for the vent, just grew up as a fan of the HB position and hate to see remarks such as RB's hold zero value when in reality, you land a very good to great RB and your offense now has a work horse.
^ we had Tomlinson, TJ and Leon wash since Martin. All solid backs during their time here. I'm optimistic about Powell, I don't think we have seen all he is capable of doing yet. Ivory and Goodson should be fine too. Run the ball on every down, mix in some HB screens and play action bootleg get out of the pocket and fire a bomb down the sidelines. Possession football.
No he's not. He's mediocre. Not terrible. Not good. Doesn't have enough power to run people over. Not the most agile guy. The only thing that's good about him is that he has decent vision.
He showed plenty to me, and deserved more carries last season. Maybe you should be more specific about your criticisms, because they are pretty generalized and not convincing.
^^great observations. **rolls eyes** So far the only thing Powell has proven is that he is capable of getting the job done; protects the football and gets upfield. I want to see more. We may have something here.
Wow. What a pathetic take. If by "defenses that Shonn Greene really wore down for him", you mean "defenses that Shonn Greene ran face first into and failed to actually tire out or gain yardage against", you would be correct. It has become apparent that you don't know shit. Prove me otherwise.
Oh f off! How ridiculous is that? Powell did a great job in a lackluster offense last year and showed (and continues) what he can do. If he can put a bit more meat on his bones we could have a very good back indeed.
Powell is somewhat decent. Goodson is 12 stepping and Ivory is hanging around taking spinning classes. What a great situation !!!
Are you going to brag about games where he had 7 yards per rush, yet only rushed once the whole game? Games with 10+ carries 2012: Miami - First carries were at the end of the first quarter. Next set of carries were towards the end of the second. Next set of carries was at the end of the third. One carry in the middle of the fourth. And some rushes in OT. St. Louis - First two touches were right at the end of the first half. Some rushes at the end of the third. Some rushes in junk time during the fourth quarter after we are up two touchdowns. (3.82 ypr) New England - One rush in the first quarter. Botched the catch (Went right through his hands) the next play and it was picked off. Some rushes at the beginning of the second, put up mediocre numbers. A rush here and there at the end of drives, one 14 yard gain mixed in with some very short rushes. (3.33 ypr) Arizona - Played one series the first quarter, drive stalled fast. Didn't play until the end of the third. Three rushes in the fourth quarter, all at the end of their drives. Negligible gains. (4.83 ypr FINALLY A GOOD GAME!) Jacksonville - First drive is in the beginning of the second quarter, crappy rushes all of them. Next series of his was the last of the first half, a five yard gain and two rushes for zero yards each. After four rushes by Greene and a completed pass, Powell gets in one rush at the end of the drive. Some rushes just at the end of the third quarter. Gets some rushes at the beginning of the fourth. Probably his best drive of the season (Unfortunately that's against one of the worst teams in the NFL so that's not saying much). And some junk time at the end of the fourth. Buffalo - Some rushes on the first drive, starting with the 7th play of the drive. One good rush and two bad rushes. One short rush at the end of the first. Some random rushes here and there in the second. Some rushes in the third, all not impressive. Some rushes in the fourth, not impressive. Look, he was a typical change of pace back last year who didn't prove ANYTHING AT ALL that he could be anything more than that. His season consisted of some good rushes against tired defenses and then a bunch of short gains. He's not fast, he's not strong. He's basically a weaker Shonn Greene that we don't have to pay as much.
I think there is a former Jet in the HOF with the exact same skill set. It will remain to be seen if Powell has the work ethic and attention to detail that #28 had (not many do/ did), but don't underestimate a guy based on intangibles. There is another guy in our roster that has all the natural talent in the world but can't seem to come to camp in shape and pick up a blitz/pass protect to save his life.
So let's look at recent SB winners 2001 - NE 2002 - TB 2003 - NE 2004 - NE 2005 - Pitt 2006 - Indy 2007 - NYG 2008 - Pitt 2009 - NO 2010 - GB 2011 - NYG 2012 - Balt How many of these teams had elite RB's - one - Baltimore last year and Rice had his worst season in 3 years and it was Flacco that let the offense. The RB position is just not that important in today's NFL.
