RB Situation Massively Overblown

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  1. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Jets fans, and TGG members need to take a chill pill over the RB situation. People are freaking out over Ivory's injury and Goodson's absence. Let's put things in perspective. It is freakin' August 3. The Jets don't play a game that counts until September 8. That is 5 weeks or 36 days away.

    Ivory has a hamstring injury. It is not torn or we would have heard that. The Jets are rightfully being cautious about it and not rushing him. And there is no reason to rush him. The first preseason game where the starters get any significant action is two weeks away. But really, it only matters if Ivory is ready to go on September 8. That is all. If Ivory is not practicing on September 3, then you can worry. Training camp is not important for RBs. It is the position that requires the least amount of preparation. It is an athletic and instinctive position. Missing reps on the field at this point is basically meaningless. Let him rest his hammy and start the season healthy.

    As for Goodson, let's use some common sense. He is not in camp and the Jets FO and CS state that they know where he is and are not concerned. If Goodson were in jail or going to jail, the Jets would have cut him by now. There is no reason to wait. The Jets obviously know he is coming back and likely before the season starts.

    So let's stop all this whining and speculating and bashing of Idzik for not "doing something."

    My prediction is that Ivory and Goodson will be on the Jets roster and in pads on September 8 and that Ivory will be the a two down back and Goodson will be the 3rd down back and Powell will be a back up and McNight will return kicks.

    But unless and until we get to the end of August and nothing has changed, there is nothing to worry about.
     
  2. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    Even if all of that is true dont we still have a few worries to concider.


    I mean if all of our hopes are relying on 1. A HB that has yet to have an injury free season. 2.A HB that has had multiple off field issues and has the same carry problems we have seen in Mcknight?

    I get that the WCO plays into receiving/speed backs heavily but we dont have
    a proven full rounded HB on the roster. If at least one of them was solid in their
    own respect i think it would be easier to have faith in our backfield.
     
  3. JerseyFrasca

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    I wonder if the jets asked Goodson to step aside for the purpose of avoiding the media and all the BS they create with regards to his arrest. They say they know where he is and his absence isn't a surprise, maybe they are trying temper the media's access. It also might serve as a statement toward Goodson to get his life together.
     
  4. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    If you're not worried about 'IFs', thats your opinion, but Ivory's track record health wise is not good and to not be concerned is foolish, and yes a RB can 'plug n play', but we all want our HBs in TC practising now and helping balance the team.
    Right now I am worried, Detroit is this time next week and our supposed #1 and #2 haven't yet taken a snap. With everything that TC offers, its not the best prepartion for the season.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yes we do. McKnights only real issue, is Pass Protection, this offense mitigates that.

    In fact, if Ivory and Goodson were not here, McKnight would probably pass Powell on tue depth chart.

    He is a poor mans Westbrook.
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Let me make an unrelated point. We spent enough $ on two questionable HBs, to bring in a FA QB.

    So, is the front office really that concerned about the QB situation? (media take) Or are Kolb,Flynn...etc...that bad?
     
  7. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    Mcknight has issues finding holes, following lead blocks and holding onto the football when presented with anything larger then a CB.

    Powel lacks that final gear to turn out big yards and enough power to be bruiser.

    Only thing Mcknight passes Powell on the depth chart would be 3rd down back only cause he has better receiver skills.
     
  8. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    Yea I'm not sweating. RB's have no value unless you have an Adrian Peterson on your team. They're plug n play.
     
  9. CBG

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    Mcknights other issue might be that he left practice yesterday,,,,I have not seen anything on him since,,,,,I am not bashing the GM but these guys need reps . I understand that ivory is hurt and these games mean zilch but his history along with Goodson concern me
     
  10. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Mehta says that McKnight suffered a minor concussion yesterday in lractice
     
  11. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    For the most part, I agree that it's not a big deal today on August 3rd, but the longer this goes on, the bigger the deal this becomes.

    If Ivory and Goodson had experience as starters or in this system, I would be less concerned. I'm far from panicked, but there's reason to be at least a little concerned.

    Neither Ivory nor Goodson has a track record of either
    A. Staying healthy
    B. Starting in the NFL
    C. Playing in this system

    None of these backs have a track record of anything. I have no reason to be confident that Ivory will get healthy and stay healthy, and I have no clue what to expect from Goodson, if anything.

    And everything I wrote above can be said about McKnight and Griffin, too. That leaves Powell as the only back I trust to stay healthy and be reasonably productive.

    RB is a position that you can sometimes get help off other teams' practice squads or from late TC cuts, but you never want to do that. If the line blocks well, a replacement level running back should be competent.

    Now, there's plenty of time for this situation to be rectified. And it could turn out to be massively overblown. I'm not panicking about it yet, but every day neither of them practice is more reason to begin to worry.

    I'm hoping that by this time next week, Ivory will begin practicing and Goodson reports to camp.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    To me the over pursuit of Ivory and Goodson, is the first bad mark on Idzik. He hit the lotto, by gettingGeno....but its as if he was swinging for the fences in his first at bat.
     
  13. deerow84

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    I still think this is our biggest concern, maybe it won't end up being anything major but the longer it draws out the worse it gets.
     
  14. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Let's let the season play out before we call anything a good or a bad move... For all we know, Goodson and Ivory could still be a very good 1-2 punch.
     
  15. jetsclaps

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    Ivory will be healthy and run hard come week 1.
     
  16. sec314

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    RB's need time to work with there OL so Ivory can't start practicing 10 days before the season so to speak. Time is on our side right now, but he's got a history. As far as Goodson, until I see him come back and know that he ain't going to jail, he basically does not exist and the Jets feel the same way. He's probably in rehab for alcohol taking care of it now before the courts made him do it. We can not count on this guy, he's a loser. And Mcknight does not seem to be getting any better so what do we got RIGHT NOW??? panic no way, concern some.
     
  17. HAYN

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    For a team who's QB is either going to be Sanchez or a rookie in Geno Smith, this certainly is an issue. Ivory hasn't proved he can stay healthy. Goodson may never show, despite the FO saying otherwise. McKnight has the work ethic and conditioning of a bum. Powell is decent, but it's questionable if he can handle a heavier load. But nah, the situation is overblown.
     
  18. The 1985er

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    Looking at the worst case scenario if Goodson isn't back by preseason game number 3 and Ivory is still banged up, and none of the other backs are producing then they should go after Michael Turner IMO. But that's the worst case scenario. Hopefully Powell uses this as an opportunity to show he can be more than a 3rd down back.
     
  19. JdotGriff

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    I would like to see Turner on the roster over Ivory and he can probably be had cheaply since his recent dui case went to probation. I think the only problem that would an issue is having his probation transferred to NJ. Not all states will work with each other like that to satisfy an out of state penalty.

    Not to mention that NJ's department of probation has one of the worst reputations in the country for guys slipping threw the cracks.
     
  20. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Oh my God. The season is over. One running back is nursing a sore hamstring 5 weeks before the season starts and the other is not in camp yet.

    Its overblown because it is so freakin' early. If Goodson were not coming back, we he would have been cut by now just like Hernandez was and Cooper will be.

    Why is it that when Revis held out every year, he got a pass and almost everyone said all he needs is a week and we should not worry about him until the week before the first game, but a position that really needs no work (Adrian Peterson did not take a single preseason snap last year) everyone is apeshit because Ivory and Goodson have not practiced in July and might not be ready for the first preseason game? I hate to break it to you, but Ivory and Goodson would not likely play in the first preseason game even if they had suited up and practiced every day so far.
     

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