Everybody knows what you are saying. The point where you take it too far is by saying things like that Geno makes Brady expendable simply because you are assuming that the offensive system and marriage of skill set of the QB is enough to overcome what a future HOF QB in Brady brings to the table. You can't point to Matt Cassel as evidence and then not look at his career in KC with Weis as his HC and realize you are out of line in trying to minimize that Brady is the major reason why NE has had offensive success. Over and over again you take it way too far with this OC/system BS. The reason we are even talking about Brady is because all along in this thread you have been over-attributing Sanchez' failures to the OC, without realizing that good QBs overcome mediocre to bad OCs. In order to make a pro-Sanchez argument you throw Brady under the bus, overreaching with your point. You are better off making the lack of talent argument.
Brady is surrounded by talent on his coaching staff, and in the offensive skill positions. Brady's big jump in 2007 had more to do with the Pats acquiring Moss and Welker than anything else, but I'm sure having a competent head coach and OC is a nice thing as well. Sanchez clearly had a shit offensive coordinator last year, and partially because of injury, a horrid WR core. The difference is, Sanchez was surrounded by talent in 2010 and he wasn't all that great. IMO: Sanchez sucks, and the talent around him lately is just making him suck worse.
he was really good in 2010, some folks can't see it b/c he didn't put up great fantasy #s but there weren't many QBs better that year.
FYI, he put up top 10 fantasy numbers in 2010 (thanks to his 6 rushing TDs)... People dont usually look at fantasy numbers with Sanchez, because it is pretty irrelevant. I dont think he was a top 10 QB though, probably around 12-15. Led some great comebacks, but still inconsistent. By far his best season.
My only hope is that at some point in my life our Jets get a QB where it's obvious he DOESN'T suck so we don't have to have any debate about his abilities. Let alone an endless one like this.
Probably because when looking at his career, 2010 was just so much better than his other seasons. Then you realize that his other seasons he was a bottom quarter QB...
Dude..they only change the rules, to help the offense. And in any case, the basic underlying philosophies have been in existence, Since Paul Brown. Thats why the word tweak exists.
:lmao: can one of you post hunters find who was wondering if this thread would reach 500 pages by opening day?
IMO Sanchez 2010 season is properly rated. he was a solid QB, that made big plays and was clutch. The Sanchez supporters overrate it because it's his only decent season.
2011 he played decent, he was plus 6, on 32 scores. Decent. You would like plus 16. But...2011 was the WFH year. Try playing QB with a turnstile at RT.
But all the turnovers made the scoring null and void. It seems like from the Ravens game he was never the same player.
You do know he only played four seasons right? Rookie year went 9-7 and road teh defense to the playoffs. 2010 lead the team to the playoffs outperforming Brady and Manning in the playoffs. 2011 started strong got hurt limped down the stretch. 2012 total offense collapse. After 2010 totally revamped line and weapons. That is all we have on Sanchez still room to improve. He is not going into his tenth season but his fifth. Most if not all QBs get better upto year 7 then level out.
That's what the average fan thinks...and it's wrong. Matter of fact, your entire "institutionalized playbook" concept is simplistic, shortsighted and just plain retarded.
They're reality numbers. He wasn't that great. Especially for a QB with 2 pro bowl WRs, a HoF running back and a good offensive line.
That's funny, I don't recall any skill players making the PB in 2010? you can say FORMER PB players but last I checked Holmes never made one and Braylon only made ONE back in 2007. That HOF RB was dumped by his prior team, he was playing on fumes at the tail end of his career. it's nonsense like this that makes you guys average fans. To pretend like he had great WRs(do we forget Holmes missed 4 games and Cotch missed multiple) and a great run game w/ a "HOF RB" is asinine. LT had a great first month but tailed off Quickly after that. This wasn't LT from 2006. he had quality talent, above average but nothing spectacular and he led us to 11 wins and a ton of late game comebacks after our D blew leads.
11-5 two playoff wins, making the receivers pro bowlers and a defense stop away from a superbowl. I think he played ok.
