good article and a hard one to argue with...it's not the popular opinion but it's based more in relaity. let's also remember last year going 6 - 10 there were a few games the jets almost won and were in at the end with superior competition i.e. houston IMO the Jets are not SB contendors this year obviously, but I think will surprise folks and make a playoff push. Our D this year is going to be nasty.
basically...people don't base things on facts just broad generalizations....our ST unit last year killed us on numerous occasions.
How DARE anyone speak positive about Sanchez!!!! Everyone get out the pitchforks and torches! Let's get this guy!!!!
As long as Rex is here our defense will remain in the top, top tier. Also, as long as Rex is here the offense will get ignored. I love the defense, keep the BIG hits coming, I love it! Eventually, we have to start adding some pieces to the offensive line and playmakers. Work ethic guys, that give a shit about getting up field. Let's put some points on the board.
Before I start seriously contemplating the notion that this team can post a winning record, I need to see evidence that this team has managed to assemble something that, even remotely, resembles an NFL offense. Naturally, that all starts with our horrendous quarterback play improving by leaps and bounds. Having said that, I liked the article. It was a remarkably fresh, positive outlook and served as a rather enjoyable change of pace from the 'doom and gloom' perception of the Jets that pervades the national sports media.
Sadly, the bolded expresses my never-ending fear regarding the Jets and their future prospects for success. We'll always have a good to very good defense and we'll always have a mediocre to outright putrid offense. We'll always be a team destined to have to sweat out a plethora of close, relatively low scoring games. When the close breaks fall our way, we'll be 10-6 or 11-5, and when they don't, we'll be anywhere from 6-10 to 9-7.
Well, if the defense is top 5, which it very well can be, the offense should only need to be around top 20 (and most importantly, not turn the ball over) for the Jets to have a winning season. Offensive line and running back seems to be where the Jets have the best talent offensively, so a ball control offense to compliment the defense isn't out of the question. However, you are absolutely right that this offense can't give you a ton of faith right now after last season. I'm expecting a better passing game because it's hard to be worse. But it could end up being equally bad since there wasn't a whole lot done to upgrade it (unless Holmes is healthy).
That's why I don't understand the shift to WCO? It doesn't make sense for our defensive mindset. This organization in the beginning of the Rex Ryan era, told you who we are and went out and played the way we are. Run heavy, play action dagger and stifling defense. If we are Defensively Top 5, we should pride ourselves in running the football on offense and killing their defense with play-action pass. I think this is the best approach to Rex philosophy. It's most likely going to take another year to have a chance to get back to where we were two years ago, Thanks Tanny fucking idiot. Our Defense is young and our offense need time to develop and learn whatever our offensive strategy is? Please just put some points on the board. :up:
This is a misconception. 2009: Sanchez, Greene, Slauson. (Entire draft was offense) 2010: Ducasse, McKnight, Connor, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards (Kyle Wilson was the lone defensive pick. Holmes was 5th pick, and Braylon was 3rd and 5th clumped together) 2011: Powell, Kerley, McElroy, Scotty McKnight [First year to not invest any high picks on offense] 2012: Hill, Ganaway, Griffin, White 2013: Smith, Winters, [4th: Chris Ivory], Aboushi, Campbell, Bohanon 3rd round or higher in bolds. It is not like Jets ignored the offense. They did what they could. Just they didn't have enough picks to address them. In fact, Jets neglected defense. Jets drafted one or two at most in each of the draft year usually, and the majority of the picks - both high and low - all went to the offense. This resulted in the team getting old in a heartbeat, as we witnessed last year. Trading up is never a good option unless there is a quintessential QB prospect on board. Also Jets were relying way too much on Rex Ryan's defensive talent to pull this kind of bullshit; Ryan indeed made chicken salad out of chicken shit when it came to defense. Eric Smith has no place in NFL - but Ryan made a serviceable SS out of him. After Jenkins went down, Jets didn't have legitimate presence up the middle - Ryan still made do with Pouha and whatnot. This has to stop. Sound draft strategy will infuse young blood on all aspect of the team, and give the coach enough options to create viable game plan. So far, Ryan didn't have enough. [Just look at the number of defensive picks he had to work with.] Defensive mindset does not dictate what kind offense that team should run. Nor should it. It is not like WCO teams can get away with porous defense either. Defensive mindset and WCO are two different things, that have absolutely no relation whatsoever. Case in point: During Bill Walsh era, 49ers had one of the most dominant defenses of the era as well. Walsh himself had to add to this [Not an exact quote - but some of paraphrasing off my head] : As for the offense, you can get away with a lot, as long as you have a good QB. You cannot do that with defense - all of your 11 must be good to have a good defense. [This is a testament to what kind of asset Jets actually have in Rex Ryan - circus or not, he is a huge asset. No one in his sane mind can deny this fact - but I digress.] The passing game is not what it once was - the "When you pass, three things can happen. Two of them are bad." shit doesn't apply any more. If you don't understand what 'elongated hand-off' means, I don't think you understand the essence of WCO. On top of that, it would take a monumental investment along the OL and the RB to feature the ground attack as the main modus operandi. With premier talents invested along the DL a lot (and their rookie contracts will expire soon) I don't think it is prudent strategy to invest another heavy chunk along the OL. I am not saying Jets should neglect OL - just, Jets cannot afford to have massive financial commitment along the DL AND OL and have a successful campaign. I would say the change to WCO is a welcome change that was necessary.
For one season, running the ball primarily is the best option, considering the talent on this roster. But long-term, Rex said he learned that you need to pass the ball more to be a consistent winner. And just because the offense is a West Coast one doesn't necessarily mean we'll be passing all the time or ignoring the run game. Marty does have a track record of not running the ball a ton, which is mildly concerning, but over the long haul, it's very difficult to win in the NFL without a good quarterback and a good passing game, and I'm hoping we can get to that level eventually. Is Marty the best candidate for OC given this team's personnel? Maybe not. But he's got a track record of success in the NFL, and you can't just hire an OC for one season. There are many ways to have a successful offense. The Jets just need to find a way to score more points and turn the ball over less. Balance is key. Being able to run the ball is important, but we can't use that 2009 philosophy and expect to win Super Bowls with it. Points come out of the passing game by and large. Running the ball helps out the defense, and it may help us win this season, but to get over the hump, we'll need balance. We knew this already. Like I said, Marty is a big picture OC move. We knew ahead of this year that this team wouldn't be able to have a lot of flexibility to improve dramatically. I'm confident Marty is a better OC than Schottenheimer or Sparano. The offensive talent early in this draft wasn't as strong as the defensive talent, unless you wanted to go with a non-premium position.
Interesting. The lack of offensive talent may be more of Tanny than Rex. A poor job was definitely done scouting Duccasse & Connor also Slauson was a below average talent wise starter (never understood the love) and Wilson was picked at least one round too early. Post season blunders: 2009- Could have kept Jones and Faneca for another year (not a huge thing, but I think they were both strong veterans that would have been instrumental in the 2010 push) LT was a huge acquisition that nullifies Jones. 2010- Huge blunder in not resigning Braylon (Sanchez and Braylon made money all season long 2010...Sanchez was really rolling with Braylon and this was a huge detriment to his game) Paying Holmes big upfront money and naming him "captain" is the worst mistake since I have been a Jets fan '98. Fixing the Braylon problem by adding shit head Burress (great blocker though..Bray and Burress would have made a nasty blocking tandem on the outside). And probably even a worse blunder allowing the 2011 season to start with Hunter at RT. Sanchez RIP Baltimore 2011. 2011- Wait, Hunter is still on the football team? Wait, Hunter is still starting RT?? How did that take two weeks into preseason to figure out that it's not working??? Tebow, boy was I wrong about that move. The entire Tebow clan is scary, very scary. Face it Tebots, talent wise, he's not NFL caliber. Shonn Greene <3 I loved #23 for the moments he gave us in the playoffs late in the season 2009 and complimenting 2010. With a back like Jones or Tomlinson leading the way, opposing defenses were reeling when #23 carried the rock. This was a BIG time fuck up. If we are "Ground n Pound" we have to find a premier back to replace Tomlinson, build up the offensive line and pound premier back and the beast that was Shonn Greene, sticking a dagger in the hurt of all those who opposed with the Play action pass. Pennington made a career of it with Martin and Jordan. We had all the tools we just needed to secure the right side of the line and secure a feature back instead of shit head Holmes. Bray would have come on the cheap and he could have opened things up for Senor Kerley. I thought Tebow could have been a decent running back, but he looked like he beefed up a ton and was slower than amanda bynes. 2012- Forget about the damn WCO. Build up the Oline already and pound the fucking rock all day long. The Ravens do it and to catch the defense off guard they bomb one down the sideline to the fastest guy on the team Torrey Smith. Pound, pound, pound, pound, pound, play action pass. you need Big receiver/tight end type player that takes the underneath route Anquan Boldin. /rant
1. I agree that letting Braylon go was a huge mistake - I was voicing my displeasure at Braylon leaving for some time. 2. That said, I am inclined to think that, WCO fits the current Jets offensive personnel better than the conventional ground attack-oriented offense. Jets do not have the kind of OL, and they don't have the bell cows to carry the rock. Instead they already have two shifty slot receivers, and RBs that can catch out of the backfield. If Hill can add vertical dimension to the offense, WCO should be the right call, based on what the Jets have at this particular moment. And Jets will have to address RT position early next draft. [RTs of late - after Woody retired - have been killing Sanchez like no other. If Jets want any return out of Sanchez investment, they would do very well to draft an RT that does not block like shit.]
It was 21st in the league. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst Below average, but not horrible. There is more room below 21 to be horrible. I was going on all 4 years as a group. If we focus just on last year, there's still room to be worse. The previous 3 years they were 4,5, and 6. The ST is a wildcard still. We can't just assume Westhoff will find a way to fix it since he's gone. It's a question mark for this team. There's room to get worse and room to get better, but I would feel much more confident in the unit if Westhoff was still coaching.
I'm a loooong-time & eternal "Jet-Optimist-icalist" as well as being a "Mark-Apologista" & in some way, understand the author's "trend-reversal" reasoning for viewing this upcoming season in a more positive light. However, the above underlined & italicized statements regarding Mark - for some weird reason TO ME - seems annoyingly similar to those asinine ramblings/rants used by "Te-BlowMe" 'droids deigning him "great" while ignoring his horrific, qb-skillset. I'm jus' sayin'...........
Finally someone with their head out of their rectum area. Personally I love all the Jets bashing that has been going on since last season. Absolutely love it. If there is one thing Rex is an absolute master at, It's creating an US against the world scenario...and the media is doing it for him. Let's face it. The Patriots are now extremely vulnerable. The Bills are starting a rookie QB...and the Dolphins chances rely solely on the arem of Tannenhill... I don't just expect the Jets to go 8-8...I expect them to win the division.
