NFL.COM: Santonio Holmes' Lisfranc injury was most severe kind

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  1. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    You're right that the QB play makes the WRs look worse, but at the same time, better WRs could make the QB look better. And if you gave Geno this receiving corps, would he really make it look much better?

    Laurent Robinson isn't an awful guy to bring in. Had a very good 2011 as the 3rd receiver with Dez Bryant and Miles Austin. Last year, he was ravaged by concussions. He's not that good, but no one out there is that good at this point, and he'd be decent competition with Obamanu.

    Holmes's injury is a total wild card at this point. He could be back close to the start of training camp and none of this is an issue. He could be back week 6 and be slowed by it all season. In that case, WR is a disaster area.
     
  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    so it was a bad injury. the fact that they knew this after it happened and that they did nothing to the wr corps this offseason tells me 1 of 2 things.
    either holmes is on schedule and the writers are speculating based on the news of the severity just coming out.
    or
    there is no one out there that idzick feels is an upgrade over the present personnel.
     
  3. displacedfan

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    Ouch this would be a big hit to our WR depth. It means Hill will have to stay healthy and hopefully learn how to catch consistently quickly.

    I guess Rex/Idzik/MM don't feel like they need to add anybody yet and will wait it out with Holmes' injury. There isn't much on them market now and I think the players left there will still be there the closer we get to training camp.

    Chad Johnson is out of jail for whatever that is worth.
     
  4. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    still boggles me that we didn't select a WR in april.....i understand the true to the board crap but in this scenario, IMO, should have dictated picking a WR instead of the 3rd or 4th round guard.
     
  5. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    and that doesnt make you think that maybe they know more than the media is speculating?
    nobody has given anytime frame other than he may start the season on the pup. have faith,idzick knows what he is doing
     
  6. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I can agree with you a bit here...but after what we just heard about the "dropsies" in OTA's and mini-camp it adds to the unknown. What good does it have to have any type of average QB if the receivers can not hold onto the football. Further food for thought.

    You know, as I think about it...to add insult to injury...a lot of folks are clamoring for Braylor...and what is his biggest problem? Hands. <sigh> :breakdance:
     
  7. Barcs

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    ^Braylon overcame that issue and we have a WR on our roster that needs to do the same. Who'd be better to help him? I've been saying it for a long time, we need another WR for depth or just in case. Edwards is a perfect fit.
     
  8. jilozzo

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    U r right. There must be a victor Cruz somewhere on the roster...:)
     
  9. FJF

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    we won't find out by signing plug and play stop gaps
     
  10. TNJet

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    The Scotty McKnight pick still pisses me off.
     
  11. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    How often do Victor Cruz type receivers emerge while getting balls thrown to them by mediocre QB's?
     
  12. jilozzo

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    even if we had either manning i am sure we do not currently have a VC on the team - despite what our previous GM claimed.
     
  13. Br4d

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    I don't think concussion cases are an appropriate pickup, even in a time of great need. Those guys just should not be on the field at all. They've already shown a predisposition to taking hard contact on the head and suffering the worst results from that contact.

    At some point the NFL needs to find a way to get the risky cases off the field for good. The lure of the high salaries will keep guys who have no business playing coming back for more. Somebody has to fix that and so far all the incentives are tuned the other way.

    Ultimately the NFL probably needs to get a good predictive workman's comp plan going that pays guys just enough not to play to offset the enormous expenses that will be incurred down the road.
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i love these absolute statements.
    how do you know for sure. the giants didnt know what they had until he emerged. if anyone knew what he would become he would have been drafted relatively high.
    there is a chance all be it slight we could have a hidden gem on the roster. we wont know unless we let some of these guys play. the giants found cruz by letting him play and not running out for a 30 something vet who held no value past 1 year at the most.

    edit. i feel like the hobbes of the wr corp
     
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  15. The 1985er

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    Or we can accept the fact that we probably don't have a Victor Cruz on the roster. Even with Cruz the Giants still had enough depth to allow him to develop so he was able to step in already prepared to play. Plus it doesn't hurt to have Eli throwing him the ball either. So while other teams load up on quality receivers you want the Jets to hope that some UDFA will breakout? If it happens by accident then great but we need to put PROVEN NFL receivers on this team.
     
  16. FJF

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    and what sure commodity is available right now that wont be on august? there is no reason to rush out and sign anyone right now. and at some point we will have to take a chance on some young unproven players at a position or 2. might as well be now while expectations are low. all we need to do is find 1 other wr to go with kerley out of this group and the outlook on the position changes. if we have to sign a 1 year guy we are looking at 2 positions to fill next year.
    give it till preseason week 1 before anything has to be done

    this is part of rebuilding.there will be thin spots in the roster. the hardest part is having the patience to let itself playout. tanny could never do that and always hedged his bets. part of the reason why the roster got thin quickly.
     
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  17. The 1985er

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    I understand your point but like someone else said before having all these scrub receivers beat each other out isn't a true competition. Now if they beat out say Braylon or Lloyd then you know we potentially have a good receiver on the team. Clyde Gates beating out Jordan White and Marcus Davis proves jackshit.
     
  18. RochesterJet

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    I agree with you 100 +%. This is why I am suprised that we didnt go after a WR in the draft and/or sign Braylon/FA vet yet...I dont envy Mark Sanchez (set up to fail in MHO).
     
  19. FJF

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    my guess is players will be rotated in as the weakest players are weeded out. i wouldnt be surprised to see another 5-8 wr's come thru here over the course of t.c. and preseason.it will be a constant rotation of competition. the turnover of players in seattle was tremendous and thats what i think we will be looking at this august
     
  20. abyzmul

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    I agree with this, and that is what I was hoping for when this guy was hired.

    Real competition, not signing a couple of JAGs and selling the coaching staff and fans on the idea that they are the answer.

    I wasn't sure about the rapid-fire player acquisition style of Seattle over the first year or so, but they have surprised the hell out of me and I want some of that now.
     
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