Marc Sessler: New York Jets' QB duel might end before training camp

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  1. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Only way Sanchez gets the nod, is if Smith is clearly not ready. and i don't think that will be the case.

    Idzik, Rex, players and fan base, all want Smith to win this thing.
    If it is anywhere near close, Smith gets the nod...
     
  2. ArmandJ

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    I would. Fine switch New England with Pittsburgh or any of our tough home games.
     
  3. johnnysd

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    Really bad post. It is true that sometimes a player starts because of financial situations but not this one.

    First, the money on Sanchez is already thrown away. That was done last year, and the current GM is not beholden to that money. In fact, you could make a case Tanny lost his job because of that money

    Second, Woody was perfectly willing to bench Sanchez last year knowing he was on the hook already for this year. No reason to think he is not even more willing to do that this year.

    Third the financial impact on Sanchez playing is not as clear cut as you think it is. Your contention is that because he costs $8 million this year he has to play because we won't throw that money away. There are many other negative financial impacts of playing Sanchez:

    1. Fans HATE him. Even more viciously than the more hard core fans here. If he starts, less fans will go to games. Less fans = less concessions, parking and merchandise sales. However if Geno starts, more fans attend which means more concessions, parking and merchandise sales and lots of Geno jersey sales

    2.The Jets need a face. Darrell is gone. Sanchez is the face of the buttfumble not the Jets. Geno as starting QB becomes the face of the Jets and helps drive many additional revenue streams.

    In the balance, it is likely that starting Sanchez forces the Jets to throw away much more than 8.5 million, but starting Geno helps recover some of that.
     
  4. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Turnabout is fair play. No issue. But dont you see, how it sounds, when you say...Sanchez cant start because we might not get him off the field?

    60%... simple...its two completions a hame from his overall performance, and MMs offense lends itself to more QB friendly throws.


    And fwiw...today..sanchez is better than the three of the QBs hes going to face in four weeks.

    Geno may be too..but the team is better served by actually trying to develop him....when there is no argument that Sanchez cant beat the Bucs,Jills,Titans...given a little help.
     
  5. johnnysd

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    Did you actually just say "showcasing" and Sanchez in the same sentence. That is hilarious. The only thing Sanchez could showcase is the continued circus of the Jets. He has also never had a good season.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

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    Please.that is the most ridiculous post on thos thread including my incoherent ones.

    Fans hate him? Thats a coaching decision?
    The Jets need a face?

    Revis was never the "face" of the franchise, Rex is,was, and will probably remain so, until he isnt here.

    Even so..hardly a football decision.
     
  7. Cman68

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    Did Sanchez bang your girlfriend or what.. I've seen hate before but you Sir, are truly a Sanchez hater. Sad really...
     
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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Even Joe Namath has some faith in Sanchez..

    Taken from today's NYPost.com:

    Well there you have it from the only QB to play in and WIN a SB in the history of this franchise. I totally agree that if Geno beats out Sanchez in camp, he deserves to start. But again, Namath agrees with me in that sometimes, Contract trumps ability.
     
  9. Hobbes3259

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    Its not only the dollar amount. We all know Sanchez has never played for a decent oc, we all know Geno isnf coming from a pro style offense.

    Why go out of the way to try to set Geno Back? Because of irrational fan base hate for Sanchez?


    If MM gets Sanchez where he should be. We are set at QB, into the next decade, a position this team has never been in.
     
  10. Spike_D

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    This is why I think Sanchez will have trade value at the end of the 2013 season. I think a playoff run would shock the majority of us, so this season isn't about that. This season should be about improvment accross the board. That includes Sanchez if everything works out right .... I would be shocked if the Jets could get a 7th for Sanchez right now. But if MM works his magic (as he has done at every stop as an OC) and can bring Sanchez's completion % up to 60%, and decrease his turnover rate, then its very feasible the Jets get a 3rd - 5th round pick for him next offseason. Geno gets a year to learn, and the Jets have a pile of picks play with, as well as some cap space.

    I realize the hate everyone has for Sanchez, but how can you NOT see this as a positive.
     
  11. Cman68

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    A lot depends on how Sanchez plays this upcoming first half before the bye week. If MM can salvage Sanchez, then we'll be blessed with two quality Qb's. If MM can't salvage Sanchez, then he'll be the stopgap and take the pounding that Geno would have taken in the first half of the schedule. Either way, 2013 isn't a playoff year for the Jets anyway unless the rest of the AFC falls prey to parity and even 7-9 gets you into the playoffs.

    There's also a bit of a timetable here in that we have to know what we have in Geno and that comes with playing time. Looking at the second half of the schedule, that would be the perfect time to put Geno out there and see where he is in his development as a PRO. If Geno shows promise, then Sanchez will be traded as his contract will prevent him from being cut outright. If Sanchez plays well, then we should recoup something. We can ill afford letting Sanchez walk w/o any comp at all.
     
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    First team period: Sanchez goes 3 for 5, INT, sack. Geno goes 0 for 4, INT (tipped). Simms works w/ 3rd team. McElroy takes 1 snap w/4th tm
     
  13. MikeSLTJ23

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    3 passes completed?? C'mon Cro, I thought there were going to be 0.

    I just want to be the first to say "SEASON'S OVER" 9 passes into OTAs. You know it's coming...
     
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    I could be wrong but IMHO...You can give Mark the nod to start the season but at some point you have to give Geno meaningful starts this year to see what you really have.

    1) if he gets it done...you've got your starter... drive on...
    2) If it doesn't look like he can get it done then you've wasted a second rd pick but you go get one of the 2014 QB's.
    3) If you never find out what you have this year and you pass on a top QB next year because Geno might be the answer then there's a good chance this problem continues for another year and all coaches and potentially all front office should be fired.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    If they make a playoff run, they arent going to trade Sanchez.
     
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    If Nacho starts the season, Jets will have difficult time selling PSL and ST's
     
  17. sec314

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    Give Smith every chance to win it, no? That starts with the amount of snaps a starter would get at mini and training camp. Seeing Sanchez behind center would make me sick, seriously, I think Woody and Rex feel the same way. How could you not? Please have the balls and do it. The thought of Rex running out of the tunnel with Mark running his team makes me ill. Rex id fixable, Sanchez needs a change.
     
  18. xxedge72x

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    I would imagine that Rex understands that things aren't as black and white as the fans would have it. Further, it doesn't make sense to award Smith the job based on the fact that he's not Sanchez. Then again, that seems to be the typical negative thinking that goes on in all walks of life now.
     
  19. JetBlue

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    exactly. if Sanchez improves significantly and the team is a playoff contender, there is no reason to dump Sanchez for Gino when you have Sanchez for one more year and Gino under contract.

    you go into the following season with Sanchez again, and if he continue to improve you then have to decide whether you keep Sanchez, who is now a good NFL QB and worth keeping, or dump him for the unknown Gino.

    but it is absolutely ludicrous to think if Sanchez improves enough that he is a good NFL QB that the Jets would then dump their now proven commodity immediately after the season or during the season.
     
  20. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez is being paid a top QB salary.
    unless he dramatically, dramatically improves his play, and becomes a top QB in the NFL this year, he will be off the team in 14.
    In other words, he will not be on the Jets in 14.. bank on it.
     

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