Who said Pennington couldn't hit receivers in stride. The only real knock was that he had a weak arm. Besides that he was accurate. Anyway if we're seeing him making mistakes every week you're telling us that what we're seeing isn't really what we're seeing? It's one thing to acknowledge his short comings and just say that you hope he turns it around. But to insult everyone's intelligence by making up what you think is going on is BS.
I think we all want this, I just think that Sanchez has to improve because healthy WRs and new OC aren't magically going to make him better than he has ever been in his career. There are problems last year that cropped up that he NEEDS to fix to become a great QB in this league.
Like I said Sanchez needs to go somewhere and be a backup to a vet QB and hope he can learn enough to eventually resurrect his career down the road.
I've been working on a new invention. It's a color coded clipboard that a quarterback wears on his wrist. I've been testing it, but the center (my fat brother in law) keeps complaining when I reach in to take the snap.
Every decent QB in the league, hasnt suffered Schotty and Sparano. Or Sparano, and lest years Island of mosfit toys at skill positions, due to injury.
Right. Weak arm, and was hanging receivers out to dry, hence....not hitting them in stride. No one said you are not seeing what you are seeing. You just arent trying to understand it. Blaming Sanchez, for every offensive woe, is the simple way out. Taking a few seconds to put your observations into context. (i.e. thinking), requires a tad more effort than merely emotionally PMSing. Tell me, how many of Schottys offenses even sniffed top 15? Or Sparanos,(as oc) top 20? Yet, even under Schotty, Sanchez progressed slightly year in, year out, while not having the Same number one receiver for two years in a row. And, in all fairness put up 32 scores in 2011. I would say the guy has earned a shot with a decent OC, and .....for the first time ever...returning the same set of Wrs, as the previous opening day. And....just for fun, if you want to invoke the "makes other players around him better" please list that corps of Wr talent he was supposed to make better from 09-12
Ahh the short memories. "Hobbes3259 Totally Addicted Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stranded on Mevi$ Island Posts: 12,331 vCash: 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be fair, that's right. Sparano is not Bill Walsh. But our Offensive talent, is top tier. Number 7 total offense this year " This taken from the Hobbes thread from last year "So whee is the Scotty Defenders now?" http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=73963&highlight=sparano It's precious watching Junc and Hobbes talking about the elite Jets talent and Sparano being an improvement over Schotty.... It's even more precious now watchign Hobbes and Junc saying now how the Jets talent was lacking last year and sparano was a horrible OC.... Just one more season of watching Hobbes and Junc make excuses. The more that things change, the more they stay the same. Another Gem after a loss under Sparano from Hobbes, again defending sparano and the offense. " 10-22-2012, 02:47 PM #44 Hobbes3259 Totally Addicted Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stranded on Mevi$ Island Posts: 12,332 vCash: 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by JetsKickAss Sorry guys, I am not blaming a special teams miscue in the 1st quarter or an interception by Sanchez that wasn't in the 4th quarter. This game was ours in the 4th quarter after we marched to the 3 yard line and also recovered the fumbled KO. This is on Sparano and Rex. The slant call was ASININE even if it is Joe Montana to Jerry Rice. It hasn't worked all year...it's a call for the 1st or 2nd quarter. Hobbes Bullshit. The offense played their asses off. The magic 5second clock stoppage, and the phantom PI call from 25 yards away were the determining factor. Period. If you want to blame Sparano for The LB beating Howard like a drum on the last play, that's not his fault either" It's really funny to go back in to last pre-season and even about 1/4 to 1/2 way through the season and watch Hobbes and JUnc talking up the Sparano and the elite Jets talent on offense and as the season progresses watch them start to back down and start blaming everyone and everything except Sanchez.... __________________ "
Hey as far as the oc is concerned most were happy to see a change, but change is not always better. Kinda like when Pennington got hurt and the retarded fans were cheering, how did that turn out? Finally look up what Trent Dilfer had to say abt Sporano being our new oc. Let me say Dilfer was honest. The Miami fans had warned us lol. The guy had no oc resume. Dnot how we hired him to run this offense.
Tools can make your job easier, but you can't make your tools better. The tool example works, & plz quit with that not understanding the offense, Sporanos rocket science offense, which we would predict plays correctly a week before lol.
Is it really precious? show me one quote where I wrote Sparano was an upgrade and that we had elite talent. Good luck finding it and don't just copy and paste, copy/paste AND provide the link.
Your arguments are cliche. Go back and look same arguments on Pennington. If Sanchez was as bad as you say he would not be contending for the starting Job. Heck if he was a s bad as you say he would not be a QB. The whole he can't hit people in stride is just a BS argument as I said many factors going into that including comfort with your receiving core. Again, That is why receivers and Qbs especially new receivers and Qb spend so much time on well timing. Sanchez's problems are all based on turnovers, timing and decision making. He reads defenses fine what he doesn't do is throw the ball away enough or take a sack he is always trying to make a play. As Hobbes has said some of that is coaching.
1. He's only "contending" for his job because we're stuck with him for another year due to his contract. Besides that he'd been cut by now. 2. To be fair there's been worse QB's than Sanchez. With that said he sucks and he should be a backup. 3. Sanchez can hit receivers in stride he just can't do it consistently. 4. Right so if Sanchez reads defenses fine then he has me fooled.
1. Yeah they brought in Garrard to compete with him because he would been cut that is funny. 2. Brilliant analysis 3. again you have no idea what you are talking about but hey keep spouting ignorance is usually bliss. 4. From your post your football IQ is not really that high so not to hard to fool you. Great reads http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=25876&highlight=pennington+sucks&page=2 http://turnonthejets.com/2012/10/turn-on-the-jets-offensive-film-breakdown-sanchezs-34-dropbacks/
Going back and reading some of the posts about Pennington is just amazes me. Very similar to this thread he was even criticized when they won or he played well. There is no winning with this fan base and I feel sorry for Geno. What can Geno expect just go pack and read the post about Chad and Mark. He can expect constant coaching changes no stability and an unsupportive fan base. Lets not forget all driven by the media they find it amusing to watch the Jets squirm. Ponder, Gabbert, Locker all get more benefit if the doubt than Sanchez who has four playoff wins. How many Superbowls have the Jets been to prior to Sanchez how many playoff wins have the Jets had how many AFCC games? Carried or not carried Sanchez has been the most successful winning QB in Jets history. Yeah he would have been cut.
Ifelt good about the offensive talent going into the season. As I do this sesson. How did that work out over the season, Holmes gone,Keller and Hill miss about 16 games between them, and hill plays mostly injured. And I guess you can blame Junc and Me for the fact that nstead of adjusting to the fact that he had little to no outside players, Sparano all but cut out pasing to guys out of the backfield. Nothing like an OC with shit WRs, conceding the flats to the defense.Yeah, totally predictable. Context, is your friend.
Just answer me this one question. For any Sanchez supporter. We understand that there were injuries to Holmes and Keller and guys coming in and out of the lineup. But does that mean that he had to be statistically the worse QB in the league? If any of the top 15 or so QB's were throwing to Gilyard and Jason Hill would that cause them to drop to the bottom of the league?
