Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Too bad we have to wait until December 15 to face the Panthers.
     
  2. Testaverde

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    I think Idzik is a lot smarter than to think that. If that was truly Idzik's plan, then he wants Rex to go down with the U.S.S Sanchez.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Oh. So that works for Carson Palmer...but not Sanchez.

    Can you at least be consistent?

    Who was Sanchez throwing to in 2012?

    Just to be clear...i was right about Garrard, and you are on Record as talking out of both sodes off your mouth.
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You meant to say...idzik, isnt bright enough to seperate the coaching, from the players.
     
  5. AK-JETS4Life

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    Do you think Sanchez was worth the money?
     
  6. RochesterJet

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    While I can't argue that Mark Mark Sanchez has some issues with the screen pass, accuracy on short routs when pressured (more often in 2011 and 2012), and some confidence is his decisions (pressure both on the field and in the papers have destroyed it) he still could be the answer.

    I personally had it with him after that performance in Tenesee, he was making ridiculous decisions and seemed visibly shaken.

    Then I didn't think about the Jets until march 15th. I needed the chance to stop being so emotional about the past 20 games my favorite team had just played(the Jets always seem to rip our hearts out). Then the Revis groundhog day scenario (no need to kick a dead horse).

    Going into the draft I wanted the Jets to finally, finally, get Mark the weapons and protection he needed so we could finally see if this #1 pick had it. In true NYJ fashion, we draft a CB a lineman, and another QB with the first 3 picks ( actually like the picks). So where does this leave us?

    Is Russell Wilson better than Mark Sanchez? We don't know the answer to that like you seem to. basing that argument off wilsons 1st year results is crazy (Mark actually had a better rookie campaign). So to preach that you in fact have come to the conclusion that he is a better QB makes me question your understanding of the game.

    Bottom line is no QB is above shitty protection and practice squad receivers; not to mentio pee-wee coaching.
     
  7. RochesterJet

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    Exactly, the hate distorts people perception of reality. Classic overacting SOJ fans
     
  8. Hobbes3259

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    Right. Like chris mortenson...


     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    The same Chris Mortenson, that said Brady Quinn was going to be a Jet?


    I say Chris Mortenson, is probably full of shit.


    Again.
     
  10. AK-JETS4Life

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    How is it that Mark's rookie campaign is better than Wilson's? If you mean that Mark made it 1 game further than him in the playoffs, then sure. But it's not only statistically, but observantly obvious that Wilson had a better rookie year than Sanchez.

    As for the long run, I agree, we need to see if Wilson is the real deal. Which I bet he is.
     
  11. johnnysd

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    You are sort of making the point for me. You want to see him get another shot because he is a #1 pick. That reason just does not work in season 5. And yes, we certainly know Russell Wilson is better than Sanchez because as I pointed out he is already as accomplished as Mark in some areas.

    Oh and Mark's rookie season was better? On what planet? The only possible way this is true if the season is only measured on how deep into the playoffs you get. And if Seattle played defense for the last 20 seconds, I think there is a good chance they would have won the super bowl last year.
     
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  12. laxin

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    Its funny how you are making it seem like Sanchez has already won the job. He still has to beat Smith, who is a pretty damn good QB. And more importantly, he has to keep the QB position. I would honestly say that there is about a 2% chance of Sanchez lasting the year as out starter.

    Once again, you are severely overplaying this "the Jets past on Geno". Yeah, they debated him at 13, and chose a top 4 player on their board. Obviously if they were even debating Geno vs a top 4 player on their board, they had him pretty high... Certainly in the top 12. Im not so sure that you understand BPA.

    I dont have to deal with anything. Nothing has happened yet, and if I have to deal with Sanchez as the starter (IF he is), then so do you. That means you have to deal with his subpar QB play. I mean if thats what you truly want, then okay...

    The only thing I want is a quality QB and wins. Do I think Sanchez gives us that? No. Do I think Geno can give us that, yes... He's not damaged goods like Sanchez; he's a clean slate for this organization to start over with.

    I mean that is what this organization is doing, right? Starting over? The Jets realized that they needed to start over at the QB positon, and they addressed it in the 2nd round with the best QB in the draft.

    How far did you go back for that one? 500 posts?

    I dont think you understand what I have been saying for the last 6 months.

    YES, Sanchez did have poor coaching, and subpar talent around him due to injury. I have NEVER said otherwise. BUT, I 100% believe that if he was to be our QB of the future, he would've played better. If he is to live up to his pay check and his draft position, there is in no way he should play like the worst QB in the league. Thats what he played like, the worst QB in the league. You simply can NOT throw that out.

    As for Palmer, he did NOT play like the worst QB in the league with poor talent around him. He wasnt great, but he was alright.

    Sanchez accelerated the down. As a QB who is suppose to be your franchise, you have to show some sort of hope. He made Jets fan want the year to be over.

    Despite who you are throwing to, or what route combinations they are running, he still showed regression in his fundamentals like footwork, mechanics, arm talent, and even his leadership regressed (Ladanian Tomlinson's quotes are example A). If you are throwing to a college WR or Calvin Johnson, you should still be able to consistently hit them in stride. His accuracy was horrendous, and it doesnt take much to see that. His decision making was even worse. Who you are throwing to shouldnt effect that much of your game if you are a franchis QB. Sanchez did not weather the storm, he made the storm worse.
     
  13. Hobbes3259

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    Way back. I was frying to find one of my early posts, re:garrard not seeing the field as a starter.

    That little nugget popped up.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

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    Dude, your post, while accurate, comes to the wrong conclusion.

    The two sides will never agree, and even when Sanchez wins on opening day, this thread will be compiling 20 pages a day if he throws a pick.

    Of course the thread serves a purpose...we are all here busting balls, and talking about the team.

    The only way this thread could be cooler is if we were all at a Hooters with big tits, tight asses, and frosty beer.
     
  15. Dierking

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    Hooters is Hobbes' idea of a good time. Is there really anything more you need to know to discount his opinion on everything.
     
  16. Scruggy

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    After reading about Sanchez' classy response to that illiterate has-been, Smith's brainless bashing . . . I'm now rooting for Sanchez to come out and shock the world this upcoming season.
     
  17. RochesterJet

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    No, I want to see Mark get another shot because I don’t think he has had the consistency in supporting cast over the past 2-3 seasons (something a young QB needs to develop). As I said, he has flaws. These flaws are magnified with the losses in talent he has endured over the past two seasons (truth be told he didnt have half the talent Russell Wilson had in year one).

    I'm sorry, some here measure success based on stats or pro bowls. I measure success on how far you get your team in the playoffs. In that matrix, Mark had a better rookie season. Lets see how the NFL adjusts to Russell Wilson in year two; keep in mind he will have familiar weapons again this year, something Mark hasn’t had since....well his 2nd year .

    I have a bigger problem with the way the New York Jets have managed their roster than I do with Mark Sanchez being the starting QB.
     
  18. The 1985er

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    Good post laxin
     
  19. nyjunc

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    LT saying he ahs to play better. Groundbreaking stuff.

    Curtis is stating a fact, nowhere does he bash him. Obviously he needed to play better.

    who cares what Steve Smith has to say?

    3 pros, 3 great players but none of them watch mark enough to evaluate. Curtis says he doesn't even watch football so how can he evaluate? Is Steve Smith taking time away from his preparation to break down mark? LT is another last media member hopping on the bandwagon of the story of the day. he shot his way out of SD and did the same here.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    Gee, just when the general IQ of the thread was going up......


    I see your allowed back on the computer...,XBOXtoo?
     
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