But you don't expect Sanchez the construction worker to remember safety protocol because his stuff was downgraded, you don't expect him to forget how to do things and only know how to use as screwdriver and hammer. That's what was disappointing about last year. There were so many simple, rookie mistakes he committed and looked like he just didn't understand game situation anymore.
I don't have to tell myself anything, the proof is in the posting. Read the posts today, notice when he quits.
I had this argument already. Peyton lost to the eventual Super Bowl champs, the Jets beat a mediocre team that had a great qb and weak division to help earn a playoff spot. I'm sorry you let Vegas dictate upsets. I don't think anyone really considers that Jet win an upset. Besides, Peyton has a ring and is the singles biggest reason his team is in the tourney every year. Sanchez is a guy whose defiencies you have to mask with a top of-line,.top defense and a good run game. Now you can go ahead and tell me how often the defense chokes and hiw mediocre the run game is. And around and around we go.
Chances are that most of us know when to stop arguing with stubborn 5 year olds too. We let them think they won the argument and that's okay
The only thing I will agree with is peyton is the biggest reaon his team is in postseason every year, he's also the biggest reason his team fails in postseason almost every year. Indy was rightfully a huge favorite in that game, there's a reason Pitt was a WC team. Pitt may not have beaten Cincy if palmer doesn't get hurt. Pitt didn't face any other big time teams to get to and win that SB so this was not some all time great team. it was a team similar to Indy '10. A team w/ some stars that could beat anyone on a particular week. Peyton was handed multiple chances w/ the overturned Polamalu INT and the fumble returned near midfield. He was at HOME, had the superior offensive weapons and had more time to work with yet couldn't get closer than a 46 yd FG. This wasn't meant to bash peyton again, we all know he is not a big game QB, this was about Sanchez in 2010 and the benefit of the KR. You still have to make plays and he did that setting up Folk for a chip shot FG. the ones running and hiding are the ones taking their ball and going home- the 5 year olds.
To put the blame fully on Sanchez for the failures of last year is completely unfair. I go back to the Miami game as a perfect example of this. First INT that was thrown to Clyde Gates. Gates rounded off his route. Sanchez threw the ball in anticipation of Gates being in a certain spot. But because Gates rounded out his route he was deeper than he should have been and the DB was able to undercut the route and pick the ball off. The second example from that game in the INT in the end zone. The Jets called a Smash-7 Route combo. Cumberland lined up on the outside and was to run a Smash route. The inside receiver was to run a corner route (the 7 route). Cumberland ran his route lazily and too deep. He allowed the DB to drift back and was able to easily get off of Cumberland and play the corner route. Cumberland should have drove the DB out of that corner. Sanchez saw the inside receiver had his man beat threw the ball to the corner but because Cumberland didn't do his job, the DB was able to drift back and pick it off. When you go thru this throughout the year you will lose confidence in the players around you, which will cause you to hesitate which I am convinced is the reason he doesn't throw the ball to Hill in the Seattle game. I believe if Keller was healthy last year then Sanchez would have had a MUCH better season.
I really don't get why Junc feels the need to endlessly defend Sanchez. It borders on creepy. It's one thing to think he can play QB and believe that he deserves another shot and what not. I don't necessarily agree, but at least I can respect that opinion. But to endlessly defend him every single day, downplaying his mistakes and talking up his accomplishments no matter how small- , arguing INTs are "like punts" and insulting anyone and everyone that disagrees (whether they have taken shots at Junc or not)...coupling that with talking down other QBs that have real accomplishments that blow Sanchez's away... is just weird. I get a real kick out of his morning Sanchez blasts. Like clockwork he'll come in every single morning and just pop off responses to anyone that had said anything negative about Sanchez the night before. Is that really necessary? He obviously has been playing bad and deserves criticism. Is it really that necessary to respond to every single Sanchez complaint, big or small, fair or unfair??? Is there ever a morning where you might have not gotten your coffee or whatever and are just too tired to respond? Good grief! I doubt Sanchez's family and brass would have that type of diligence to defend their QB. I sincerely hope you are getting some kind of compensation for your diligence because that's a little sad if you dont... just being honest.
You sound like Bills and Dolphins fans when you tell them how bad their teams are. :rofl: It seems to be the universal response from homers that you are not allowed to evaluate their team if your team sucks as well. Just because I liked Testaverde as a Jet doesn't mean that I can't evaluate Sanchez over the past 4 years. The right coach, right player thing for Sanchez is a pipe dream. That is why you are going to see Sanchez get cut or traded in the near future. How many more days AlleyCat9? Is it 19 or 18? :rofl:
There's just no evidence for this though. Sanchez has never had particularly good seasons so we have no way to project him as having one last year if all his receivers were healthy. We all saw what happened. He had a good first game under little or no pressure from the pass rush with Hill flourishing under little or no pressure from his man. He had a good first quarter against the Steelers. Then Timmons put his helmet on Sanchez helmet and that was it for the season. No more competence at all from Sanchez. Face it, when Sanchez is subjected to pressure he crumbles. It's called the David Carr Syndrome only Sanchez was never remotely close to as good as David Carr before it set in.
Stuff like this is a great example of a fair response in favor of Sanchez. You argue real football and don't have to endlessly bring in ridiculous arguments to further your point. I'm not saying I agree with everything you say, but it makes more sense to argue this than it does "the INT was more like a GREAT punt" and what not. Oh - and you left out the arrogant potshots. Personally, I do think he lost confidence in his weapons and by extension himself last year. I think had he had Keller he would've had a better season. I don't know about MUCH better though. He's always been rather average to below average no matter the weapons and had too much turnovers. It's time to move on either way IMO
Lol the bolded is perfect. I get a cup of coffee in the morning and bring up this thread to get some laughs and also it is like a case study you would read in an abnormal psychology class. Matter of fact, I might submit it to a scholarly journal.
Look at the Patriots game as an prime example. That was the first game Keller was back and Sanchez played very well. He threw a TD pass to Keller that he doesn't even attempt if it's Cumberland.
when I see people post misinformation I correct them. It doesn't matter who it is, in this particular thread it's about mark Sanchez. it's funny how you don't find it creepy that people like you do nothing but bash. You guys have your stats and your rankings so I can't convince you, I hope someday you can have an audience w/ someone who really knows the game so they can go over it w/ you while you watch.
Yeah, you really killed him with that A. B. example of two different QBs leading their team to FG range. Lol!! We all know it is Manning vs Sanchez. Here is what you didn't mention. Sanchez played the Colts defense in 2010 which was ranked 20th in total D, and 23rd in points allowed. Peyton faced the Steelers D in 2005 which was ranked 4th in total D and 3rd in points allowed. After the fumble return, Manning led his team 30 yards against a 3rd ranked D for a 46 yard FG attempt. Sanchez led his team 38 yards against a 23rd ranked D for a 32 yard FG attempt. Even though 1 QB faced a much weaker D, both QBs gained about the same amount of yards. Both put their team in FG range. One kicker choked and the other didn't. But that example somehow proves how unbiased you are in your evaluations of different QBs :rofl2:
There you go with rankings again. You sure showed me! Did mark play at home? was mark's tam favored by more than a TD? did mark have an obvious INT overturned? did Mark fail on downs deep in his territory? did Mark then get a fumble returned near midfield w/ 3 TOs and over a minute? did mark have 2nd and 3rd and 1 from the 28? You can make all the excuses you want, the situations were almost identical. One QB succeeded in getting his K a chip shot attempt, the other failed. Oh and the reason mark even had a chance was b/c Peyton failed to get closer than a 50+ yd attempts moments earlier, one 1st down and they kick w/ no time left and mark doesn't get a chance.
I don't want a QB that can only look decent when he's surrounded by top 5, defense, special teams, top oline etc. Give me a QB that can make the best out of a bad situation and elevate the talent around him, not sink when the team is down. You can keep that.
