Here is problem and some of you guys are writing it but not understanding it imo. Imagine the jets offense as a construction team. A contractor, blue Print, workers, tools etc. Without some of these things it will be very hard to build a solid house, esp a solid foundation. Sanchez had a mediocre blueprint (game plan, play calling) provided by Schotty (contractor) with good tools (Wrs,rbs, and Te). He and the Jets had strong foundation (oline) and they built a couple of good houses (playoff seasons). After building a few good houses, not only the contractor and his blueprint were downgraded but the jets got rid of some very important tools. The tools they brought in were unreliable, & also a major downgrade. So now wthe foundation is weak, & the jets were unable to build a strong house lol. Taking all that into account it is obvious there was not much for Sanchez to do but fail bcuz everything from top to bottom around him was poor quality. If the Jets maintained the team of tools lol then we could have seen Sanchez blossom. It would be a miracle for Sanchez to improve his numbers with cheap imitation parts, & in some cases missing key parts (Holmes and Keller). The right ppl were fired Tbum, and Sporano. Sanchez deserves a shotwith the right parts to see if he can build us a mansion and not a straw hut like last year. You can't expect improvement from a person when everything around him was a downgrade. Even if you have a Lamborghini body but a ford focus engine the car will be slow unless you get the appropriate parts.
With the proper coaching and personnel, his NFL comparison was Troy Aikman. On a lesser scale. Good teammate, who doesn't carry the team can make the throws but plays big in big spots.
troy aikman of 6 pro bowls, 3 superbowl championships and 1 superbowl mvp? and the hall of fame? i think the only thing the two of those guys have in common is that they like boys.
Out of curiosity, did you watch every snap of that Bills game, or are you going off of the box score and a few highlights? This is an exact quote from you on Flacco's SB performance: "Flacco did very little yesterday." You go on to credit Jones with a spectacular performance. You just don't hear those type of things when Sanchez wins. It's not that the defense gave up X points, or this receiver/returner made this play etc.; it's always, "Sanchez made plays to win the game. I'm sorry you only look at box scores and don't watch the games."
he spins in different directions depending on the name on the back of the jersey. sanchez its his good when something good happens and its everything around him when it doesnt. its the exact opposite with the guys he doesnt like. 20 more days!!!
Did I watch every snap? No but I watched the majority of it, the Jets played that afternoon at 4PM, the Bills-Pats game was at 1PM. Earlier you asked about the DENVER game, did Baltimore play Denver in the SB? No I don't think Flacco deserved the MVP, Clearly jacoby Jones did but they tend to give it to the QB. very little may have been a stretch(and I believe I corrected myself soon after that comment) but it was not some spectacular performance, jacoby Jones was the difference maker and clearly deserved the MVP award. at what point did I say Flacco didn't help Bal win? you are confusing different arguments. This is where the problem comes w/ you guys.
He was part of one of the best teams or dynasties of all time. Both have the same makeup in terms of playing style and the fact that they need a great team around them to fulfill their potential. Aikman wasn't a great QB, but he stepped up when need be. That's where the comparison came from. I wish the Jets followed the Cowboys blueprint. Though it's tough with the Salary Cap. Smart to use his accolades as a way to counter attack my argument, you failed to mention his struggles early on. As well as the steps made for him to become successful by the Cowboys FO.
I'm using the Super Bowl as just another example of you devaluing a performance by a quarterback. The MVP is another argument but suggesting he did little is absurd. I'm not saying you didn't give Flacco some credit but it always seems to come with a "but he also had...". You don't hear things like, "Sanchez won the playoff game in Indy but the defense held them to X points and Cromartie returned the ball to midfield."
You are all over the place mixing different arguments. The difference w/ sanchez is I constantly have to defend what is right, I have folks saying he did nothing so it may seem like I am giving him more credit than he deserves but in reality I am giving him proper credit. At no point have I ever said he carried us to playoff wins, I have always credited the D first but he has been a huge part of our success which is something most people do not give him credit for b/c he sucked in 2012. Thank you for bringing up that point on the Indy playoff game. Yep, we had a great return. Did that mean we were guaranteed to get into chip shot range? Let's look at 2 postseason examples that are pretty similar. Example A: team needs FG to win on the road for the upset, has 2 TOs remaining, gets ball at their 46 w/ :45 secs to play. QB leads team to chip shot FG attempt for shaky K, K makes it and team wins Example B: team needs FG to tie at home in a game they were heavily favored in, has 3 TOs remaining, gets ball at Their 42 w/ 1:01 to play. Cannot get into chip shot range for shaky K, K misses kick. team loses. Do you know who the QB was in example B? and this QN got multiple gifts this home game they were heavily favored in and yet still couldn't get it done. The KR was nice, it sure helped but plays needed to be made and our QB made them.
aikman was a solid qb, mark sanchez i dont see that in. the hof wr and rb were great but his favorite weapon and the guy i always thought was the difference maker was novacek. he also struggled on a cowboys team htat was building coming off of a 1-15 season when he was drafted. i can see where you would make the comparison, the numbers are pretty close to me the eye test just doesnt put them anywhere near each other. it was a much different league in 1990. i will give you this, i dont think aikman is a hof qb. i do think he was a part of an absolutely great team and franchise at that time.
I thought he could have been a poor mans Big Ben because early in his career Sanchez didn't put up the big stats but he was able to make throws and was clutch.
I don't see Sanchez as a solid QB either due to how poorly he was developed. I think if the Jets had a long term plan in place, maybe we could of had a player that had similar success to Aikman. Cowboys put an all star offensive line around him with a great RB and 2 good WRs. Also, Norv Turner coached the offense. Perfect plan in place. That's what I hoped the Jets would do with Sanchez, not try and think they had a Peyton Manning out there slinging it 30+ a game. The Jets had an opportunity to make this a reality. Especially after the 2010 AFCCG The eye test comes in the playoffs where an average Aikman becomes a beast.
it is possible. not many guys get to have a team like that around them. while i never liked sanchez and dont think he would develop into a good qb, it is possible he develops into a good qb with a stellar cast like aikman had around him.
I maybe wrong but I think this is Idzik's intention creating competition in every position. More depth, players will be better with actual competition. A great team all around. We have MM calling plays whose a good OC.
I'm done spinning my wheels. I believe I've already had this Peyton argument already. We'll just have to see if paid NFL talent evaluators think Sanchez is a championship caliber starter or if they're just a bunch of "average fans".
