Aside from the fact that you can't spell the word "coat", what's the issue? The simple fact that a quarterback that took his team to 2 AFC championship games in the four years he's been the starter has to go into camp and compete for the job pretty much says it all.
That's why I put up the regular season numbers in 2010 (2009 was worse if you want to contest) to show that Sanchez didn't lead us anywhere. The defense and the running game led us to the playoffs, exactly the same way Grossman and King made it to the playoffs as well. And in the playoffs, King and Sanchez performed exactly the same, because if you count the fumble on King, count the INT on Sanchez. Sanchez, had one above average game in the playoffs in 2010. That's it. He didn't lead us to anything else. If you want to talk about anything but stats, then factor in the TD we scored when the Pats went for it on 4th down deep in their territory and failed. Sanchez didn't LEAD us to any post-season. The defense and the running game led us to game. Your argument is similar to saying, Steve Kerr led the Bulls to a championship or saying AJ Burnett was the leader of the 2009 Yankees. He was a below average player, that benefited from the help of his surrounding cast. It's also evidenced, by the fact that when the surrounding cast faded, partially because of bad managing, but also partially because we were paying star status money to a below average player in Sanchez, he regressed. There wasn't the strong running game to mask his deficiencies. Infact, the only thing people praised Sanchez for on a consistent basis was his play action ability. And why do defenses bite on play action? When you have a very good running game. Sanchez was a product of his surroundings that benefited when he was surrounded by good talent, and fell on his face when he wasn't. And in today's league, where passing and QB play is of utmost importance, Sanchez is replacement level. We can argue semantics or how the team didn't develop him the right way, it's debatable. But what's done is done, and the result is having a QB that is below average, and most likely replaced if Geno Smith can have a good pre-season.
lead doesn't mean carried, he was a HUGE part of our success in 2010. In the 2009 reg season he was more along for the ride until he stepped up in postseason- something none of those other QBs did. should we have settled for a FG after the fake punt? isn't that a good sign that we scored a TD? Steve Kerr and AJ Burnett were not playing the most important position on the field/court in their sports. he regressed like most QBs would w/ that talent. Show me the successful QBs w/ Chaz Schilens and Clyde Gates as top 3 WRs? If Geno wins the job I'll support him, I just want to win and I KNOW we can win w/ Mark. we don't know if we can win w/ Geno YET.
That is a shot from the Seahawks game, where Hill was wide open. Sanchez looked at him, and then moved on. Easy touchdown. Instead, he decided to do this: Which led to an interception (or a great punt I guess) that almost went the distance the other way, if it wasn't for one blocker. Also, this happened in a tie game. So what does this show? One, his field vision is crap. Two, he ignores his progressions there, instead only relying on guys he knows like Holmes and Keller. He doesn't just try to get to the first open guy he can find, which is the most fundamental aspect of passing for a QB. I think as long as Sanchez isn't the QB, Hill should have a much better year. The images are from a Bleacher Report article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...he-epic-new-york-jets-training-camp-qb-battle
Truly elite QBs make their WRs better. Holmes was a very good WR, look at his production before he came to us, and after. Braylon Edwards too. He had good WRs. If you get paid like an elite QB, then you have to then raise the play of your WRs. Instead, Sanchez regressed significantly, and the regression wasn't from stardom, it was from mediocrity. So how about 2011? Holmes, Keller, Kerley, and Burress in the redzone. Why were his stats still bad then? Not to mention, LT still in the backfield to catch 42 passes as well. I don't think there is THAT much of a downgrade between Sanchez now and Geno now. Geno comes in after 3 years of very good starting performance in college, ran a complicated offense, with guys that weren't exactly super recruits either. He also played behind a shoddy line and a suspect RB this year. As of right now: Geno has better accuracy and mobility than Sanchez for sure. Their arm strengths are about the same. Geno's been praised for his pocket presence as well, something Sanchez has not done well with. But Geno offers much better upside right now, because we've seen what we can get from Mark. He's had his opportunities. But in the end, it doesn't matter who you or I, or anyone else in this thread thinks should start or sit. They are both going to compete for the job, and one of them will beat each other out. And then we'll either hear stories of how Sanchez looks completely different and is a new man, or we'll hear about how the Jets got a steal in Geno and that he's the next Wilson.
Boy, your memory is getting bad. :grin: That is just in 2009. Take away a garbage time TD against SD and the garbage time TD against NE and our D allowed an average of 12.7 PPG in 4 wins. That is more impressive than an average over 2 games. You can't even get the actual PPG average right including the garbage time TDs. We have allowed 16.2 PPG. I don't really care what Sanchez did in 1 half against the Colts when he couldn't do anything in the 2nd half. I don't care what Sanchez did in the 2nd half of the Steelers game down 21 points when he couldn't do anything in the 1st half. It is nice that he doubled his playoff stats in losses, but what did he actually do in the wins? Everyone already knows. You are the one that is making all kinds of excuses. Take away that long run for a TD and that other long run and we only averaged 3.6 YPC. :rofl: Never mind Tampa only averaged 1.6 YPC. Lol!! If by we, you mean you and Hobbes, then I would agree. You SuperFans know the two aren't close. Everyone else is blinded by the actual evidence and what they saw with their own eyes.
I think it's 22 days. :grin: What is the over under for the amount of time before Hobbes explains the June 1st designation again? :rofl2:
I'm thinking he should market those skinny headbands with a slogan. Like Lance Armstrong did with LiveStrong wristbands. What should the slogan be? "Have a Nice Turnover"....? "Best Chance to Win"...? I'm stumped....
He didn't seem like such a bitch when he kept throwing TD's over and over with 10 seconds left on the clock his first two years. He was definitely always a retard but a functional organization with real experts teaching him from day one might have been able to eventually make him smart enough to be a good gunslinger. Instead he was set up to fail from day one with Schittenheimer and WR carousel and Wayne Fucking Hunter and the media and the list goes on. He wasn't enough of a man to overcome it all, probably few would have been. He might hold off Geno for a year but short of a miracle turnaround this season he'll never be what he could have been, whatever it might have been. Hopefully the whole saga will be a lesson well learned for the organization though bought dearly.
By stepped up in the playoffs I'm presuming your referring to 0 200 yard passing games in wins, 2 or 3 performances under 150 yards, and a grand total of 5 TD's in the 4 wins, 3 of which came in one game (his one game that I do give him kudos for). That's your interpetation of stepping up? You have a very low bar for standards..
By throwing TD's over and over in the last 10 seconds I hope your being sarcastic, in the final 2 minutes of either half in his first two years Sanchez had 4 TD's and 5 interceptions.
