Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. BeastBeach

    BeastBeach Banned

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    But when did Matt Leinart go to 2 AFCCGs?

    Who was the first to 30 wins?
     
  2. truthbtold

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    :rofl: SOLID GOLD!!! :lol:
     
  3. Acad23

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    Matt Leinart? Good point. Off the top of my head, I'd say he's a little to careful with the football to be in the same league as Sanchez. I think maybe with more starts he'd edge closer to Mark's accomplishments. But Mark has been playing lights out lately. It's tough to regress enough when your sitting on the bench.

    And granted, Sanchez got to 30 wins quickly, but our questionable defense had a lot to do with that. Except for a few games here and there, Sanchez has thankfully played bad enough to avoid being the quickest to 40 wins. Sanchez has 37 wins and 29 losses thus far. But remember that one of those wins is the Arizona game from last year. McElroy fucked that one up for us.

    But don't despair, things are looking good. Mark Sanchez is on pace to be the fastest QB to 100 turnovers.
     
  4. truthbtold

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    For a minute I was thinking that it's a strong possibility Sanchez could actually get to 40 losses before he gets to 40 wins. But then it occurred to me that he'd have to start at least 11 more NFL games to achieve that. There's an excellent chance he'll have less than 11 starts the rest of his career. I'd put the under/over at 10.5 and bet the under.

    The 100 turnover mark is certainly reachable. He'll just have to make sure he bunches them together in a few games. I don't see a problem with that.
     
  5. Acad23

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    Well, I'm still worried about this Chris Ivory guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JI1889cdsEE

    If he goes against the plan and plays well enough to take us out of passing situations, Sanchez may not have the opportunity to play like he has the last two years.

    Sanchez is really going to have to put in a concerted effort to stay atop the bottom.
     
  6. 1968jetsfan

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    As usual you're dodging the argument and trying to shift the focus away with a magicians slight of hand.

    But regarding your original point, no it's not red herring because in fact Bradford did have the best year of his career last year under Schotty in every category save completion percentage, which he missed by half a percent. That by definition, at least thus far in to his career, is a career year. Will it be a career year when his football career is over? I don't know, maybe, maybe not, time will tell. But at this moment in time it is his career year.

    Secondly regarding your statment "Bradford was roughly as good as Sanchez". This is an attempt to word it like Sanchez was the greater of the two and that the two seasons were essentially equal. They weren't. The running back comparison is an example of two players being essentially equal as Both RB's were very close in all numbers with one leading about half the stats and the other leading about half the stats by the narrowest of amounts. However, with the Sanchez V Bradford comparison the stats weren't razor thin, in fact some of the stats were glaringly different and the only stat that Sanchez led in is the most volatile and situational stat of the group, TD's. Every other stat was clearly Bradfords, and not by narrow margins of 1% like was the case with the Runningbacks.

    Your argument about Jackson drawing more attention than Greene is also misplaced. While Jackson was a career 1,000 yard rusher multiple times the Rams in 2012 were viewed as a pass first team. In 2011 the Jets were viewed as a run first team and Greene was clearly the featured running back on the team...Hint, being a run first team and the league knowing your a run first team means the focus is on the run game, which was not the case in STL. Secondly While going in to 2011 Greene hadn't rushed for 1,000 yards yet, his yards per carry average over the prior two years was equivicable to Jacksons. Your letting your percieved undervalue of Greene color your judgment, your also ignoring the known offensive philosophies of the two clubs. Rex was ground and pound all the way at that point in time, and that was the emphasis of the previous two seasons and going in to the 2011 season, and in fact played out through the 2011 season.

    So no, it wasn't close and your argument is invalid and not supported in any way by the evidence. Case closed, your case is lost.
     
  7. 1968jetsfan

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    it is also said that the more narrow you have to make the argument, and the more you have to isolate specific instances to support a theory while ignoring the inconsistancies of the larger pictures the more likely the proposed theory is to be incorrect.

    Sanchez hasn't been cut at this point because the Jets are hoping to get some trade value out of him rather than just cut and run. Yes June 1st is just a designation and the Jets could cut him at this point, but they are hoping to get some value in return.

    This argument is supported by how they handled Tim Tebow, who had even lower value than Sanchez in terms of trade value. They held on to him through the draft hoping to trade him for maybe a 6th or 7th round pick at some point...it didn't happen and they cut him after the draft.

    Unless everyone on camp is unimpressive and the Jets aren't able to trade Sanchez before the season it's 90% likely Sanchez will not be on the team. And if he is on the team it's only because the Jets are hoping that a team with a QB injury early in the season will trade for him.

    Idzick has shown that he'll hold on to players they don't want as long as he believes it's possible to get something in return for that player, but if it doesn't work out he sheds that player.

    So don't believe the fact that the Jets haven't just cut Sanchez as a sign they won't cut him..it just means at this point in time they believe they may be able to get some value for him. But it's pretty clear by listening to what Ryan and Idzik don't say when they talk about Sanchez, as opposed to when they talk about other players, that Sanchez's days in New York, barring a miracle, are pretty much over.
     
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    this is the greatest reply in the history of TGG
     
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    guess they can put this on sanchez's bust in canton
     
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    at the palace of shame in canton, china......:eek:hmy:
     
  12. Noam

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    Your post reminds me of Stephen Colbert in South Carolina in 2012. While Colbert's Superpac was running his "Mitt Romney is a serial Killer" TV advertisement for the South Carolina Republican primary, South Carolina Republicans were polled about their feelings about Colbert and over 50% of Republicans actually thought Colbert was on their side. They did not understand Colbert was mocking them. I am betting the same principles apply to the heavily medicated Sanchez lunatics. Sadly many of the Sanchez apologists likely think your post supports their position.

    Great post :)
     
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  14. 1968jetsfan

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    This is classic! Looking at his 2011 numbers, which Sanchez Supporters Hail as his best year he STILL Ranked #37 in the league in QBR and 31st in DYAR....His high water mark was actually 2010 when he managed to climb all the way up to #22....Almost breaking the bottom 1/3 of QB's.
     
  15. The Dark Knight

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    I wonder if Mark's bust at Canton will have a headband or not? Tough question.
     
  16. matt robinson 17

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    Looks as silly as Cindy Crosby's face mask...:)
     
  17. Barcs

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    Sanchez will make the pro bowl next year. Just sayin.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Cue the junc "but stats don't count" about now.

    Unless of course they are used to actually prove one of his theories.
     
  19. ArmandJ

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    Puff, puff, pass.
     
  20. joe

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    Barcs, you've a better chance of seeing god.
     
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