Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    well put!

    its just impossible to take it seriously anymore, its just too funny.

    man i hope we get a good int like 30 times this year!!!
     
  2. Testaverde

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    Umm, no. Sanchez had attempted 1 pass from the start of the 4th quarter to that point with 2:56 left. The Jets were on their own 13 yardline and everyone was expecting a run to run clock or make the Jags use another time out.

    Just 2 plays later on 3rd and 8 with the game on the line, the Jets didn't let him throw it. Instead of trusting the QB to convert a 3rd down to run the clock out, we ran the ball and gave it back to the Jaguars with 1:43 left in the game.
     
  3. 1968jetsfan

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    Pretty much, yes.
     
  4. 1968jetsfan

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    NFL average on 3rd and 10 becoming first down's on a pass is 33%, or a 1 in 3 chance. NFL average of a 1st down on 3rd and 10 on a run is about 22%, or about 1 in 5.

    Throwing to Comberland in triple coverage was a bad decision. if Cumberland, a low priority Reciever was triple covered that means that unless the defense was just rushing 3 people someone else was uncovered and wide open. good QBs see triple coverage and say, okay so he's uncovered? Bad QB's throw in to the triple coverage because they don't follow their progressions.

    yes in that case it worked out, But many of Marks incompletions and interceptions are on that poor decision making.
     
  5. TNJet

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    I was there 4 rows up at the game on the Jets sideline. Never left my seat til the end of the game. It was all Sanchez. The titan fans apologized for beating us because they were so bad. Everyone in the stadium both Jet and Titan fans wanted to see Tebow get a chance. Sanchez was and still is a liability that Rex insisted on playing.

    One long TD didn't kill us.

    Sanchez did with 5 TO's with the playoffs still a possibility.

    To defend Mark is on par with people who believe the Moon landing was staged.

    Shit begets shit. And that is what Mark is.

    He got too much money for the production he gave and that is that.

    Time to cut him and begin anew.
     
  6. The Uniform Bomber

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    People who are trying to rationalize the turnover on 2nd Down as being the equivalent to a "good punt" are, essentially, using defense mechanisms.
     
  7. BeastBeach

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    Apparently the 36 yard line is also "near midfield". That is actually a nyjunc quote! I don't even have to exaggerate.

    Not only do we not have to expect Sanchez to nail that wide open TD but we also have to assume that on 3rd and 8(assuming a zero gain play from destiny's child on 2nd down) he gets zero yards and that the next play is 3rd and 8 and no gain is made, resulting in a long FG attempt. That is just too much to ask.

    But in a game against Tennesse, the D needed to step up because allowing 14 pts in a game despite 5 turnovers directly attributed to the QB is just letting the team down.

    We all need to study this game more!!! We all are average fans!!!
     
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  8. Hobbes3259

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    Ummm no. Youre correct up to the last sentence, because you magically excluded the context. 2:56 on their own 13.

    Ball now on the 50.

    2:20.

    1st down 6 yards, two minute warning.

    2nd and 4, two minutes remain.

    Loss of 4, 1:56 left.

    3rd and 8, 1:56

    Gain of 1, 1:52, no more timeouts.

    You have to run in that spot, to force the last time out.

    Punt ball on the 20.

    1st down, complete to the 34 clock is running.
    1st down inc. big hit.

    1:17 left.

    2nd down, pass def, 1:12 left.

    Timeout jets

    Next play illegal touching 3rd and 15 1:06 left.

    1:00 minut left, the defense allows a first down at the 44, necessitating a spike.

    2nd and ten, .44 left. Complete for 8.

    3rd and 2, pass defense.

    :35 seconds left, no time outs

    Convert stop the clock.

    Ball on the 28.

    1st down, inc. :22 left.

    2nd 10. He has to throw it up, interception.




    Had Sanchez not made that play, on the previous 3rd and eight, the jets would have punted to the 35,40 yard line, cedeing 20 yards plus of field position, had they chanced an incomplete on the subsequent 3rd and 8, they would have left JVille with a timeout.

    Two different situations.


    No wonder Junc ridicules you guys.

    Context is your friend.

    If the jets punt instead of 36 to cumberland. jVille is one play away from the jets defending a 40 yard piece of turf.

    If the Jets dont run on the next 3rd and 8 they essentially chance being in the same position.

    Advance to 6-7, with a chance to save the season, the 3rd and 8 was the key p,ay in the game.
     
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  9. feldspar

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    Get a life, dude.
     
  10. Jake

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    Agreed. We want first downs and points, not punts and turnovers. We get the latter way too often, and it falls -not completely, but mostly- on the guy who touches the ball every snap.
     
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    Mark Sanchez preps for his new job frying 'burgers' at White Castle...

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  12. 1968jetsfan

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    I wasn't aware that 2nd down was ever a good time to punt :) (I know you werent' saying it was a good play, just commenting )
     
  13. Hobbes3259

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    A life, ?

    Context was the key to the calls in simalr down and distance,mthe fact they were roughly 60 yards apart, time left, and TO remaining...drives the decision.

    Thats the play by play, that the previous question was predicated upon, I know you haters hate to be confronted with facts, like June 1st being a desgnation, not a date meaning Sanchez aint getting cut, or that he has a history of making plays in big spots, and a history of shoddy oerformances, which os the only part you care to acknowledge...but

    Just cause you don't understand what's going on don't mean it don't make no sense
    And just cause you don't like it, don't mean it ain't no good
    And let me tell you something;

    Before you go taking a walk in my world
    You better take a look at the real world
    Cause this ain't no Mister Roger's Neighborhood

    Can you say "feel like shit"?
    Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like shit
    I ain't happy 'bout it, but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit!

    And if I offended you, oh I'm sorry...
    But maybe you need to be offended
    But here's my apology and one more thing...f***you!
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    P.s to all the Sanchez haters, still defending Schitty, and claiming that Bradford had a 'career year' with Schotty...post the stats side by sde. Sanchez 2011,Bradford 2012.

    :rofl2:
     
  15. 1968jetsfan

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    You really don't mean that do you? ha ha....
    Sanchez was better than Bradford when you compare those years in 1 catagory, total touchdowns. Sanchez threw 5 more TD's, but he also threw 5 more Interceptions than Bradford which more than offsets the TD's. Every other category Sanchez in his BEST year wasn't as good statistically.

    Try again.
     
  16. 1968jetsfan

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    One more followup on this actually, since you made it a topic of choice.

    Bradford under Schotty did indeed have his the best year, thus far of his career, in every category except completion percentage, he missed that by 0.5%. He had the most yards in his career with fewer attempts than his previous high year, threw the least number of picks of any of his full seasons, though his injured year it would have been close if that had been a full season. He had his highest TD%, his lowest int%, his highest YPA.

    Meanwhile sanchez in his first year without Schotty had his worst individual performance since his rookie season, though to be fair 2010 and 2011 weren't good seasons but they were better than his 2009 and 2012 campaigns.

    So are you REALLY sure you want to use Schotty as an excuse here?
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    The point os. Their years are not statistacally that disparate. And Sanchez wasnt handing the ball off to Steven Jackson, either.

    If Bradfords year was that much better, post their stats.
     
  18. Falco21

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    Here they are. Bradford clearly wins this one:

    Sanchez (2011) 56.7% Completion / 3,474 Yards / 26 TD / 18 INT / 78.2 Rating
    Bradford (2012) 59.5% Completion / 3,702 Yards / 21 TD / 13 INT / 82.6 Rating
     
  19. BeastBeach

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    Somebody's about to move the goalposts
     
  20. joe

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    So let me get this straight: you're now going to take it upon yourself to declare to the unwashed masses here that you're perfectly capable of reading exactly what a QB is feeling inside his head? Who are you, The Amazing Kreskin? For you to even suggest that you---from a distance---can define a player's mental state is self-absorbed insanity. But for the sake of argument, what if your team leader, your quarterback IS capable of going into a mental funk? What should that suggest to you other than weakness? But I digress: you in effect attempted to write a "sick note" on behalf of Sanchez as if you were his mother. I mean, really junc...



    Cowchips and bullshit. I never pulled out any 'stats' in my last post. On the contrary, I described in game play detail, "the basics" (QB101) so as to put Sanchez' performance into game management context so don't wimp out by resorting to your self-annointing "I'm right and everybody else is wrong--BECAUSE I SAID SO!" crap. The more I read, the more I realize that you really don't have a grasp of football (no shame in that) and that you're more about needing to tell people that you're right, which to me suggests some psychological issues in play here. However, unlike you I would not have the consummate gall to suggest exactly what is going on in that petulant little head of yours. Calm down junc, it's all good ..... just calm down....
     
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