TOJ: Rex 2.0 is Here to Stay

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  1. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Of course.

    That has been the case ever since Parcells took over.

    No. It goes beyond that.

    After Kyle Brady and Keyshawn, defensive picks outnumber the offensive ones by: 12-6. (Didn't count the years when Jets didn't have 1st round pick.) Of course, that's Rex Ryan's fault. Right?
     
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  2. BacktoQueens

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    College coaches, that is your answer?
    Lets just change our entire concept, ignore the D, and bring in Chip Kelly to try to implement a college offense.
    That never works....and it's time we get off the fruitless coaching carousel.

    ftr, i think both Kelly and Marrone will be back in college within 3 years.
     
  3. Zach

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    They may be really good coaches, but I don't think they are in any way comparable to Nick Saban. Nick withstood for 2 years before calling it quits. (Carroll is a totally different situation - he worked in full NFL capacity long before he got his USC gig, at one time as the head coach of - yes, you guessed it - the very New York Jets.)

    And Nick isn't the only failure here. Spurrier (Gators legend) failed miserably with Redskins. Lou Holtz couldn't even get through the season with the Jets. (Of course, we're talking different era, but you get the idea.) Lane Kiffin failed so completely - it wasn't even funny. I don't know where the optimism comes from. College coaches will need to take just as sufficient time as the rookie prospects do, if not more.
     
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  4. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    What Rex 2.0 really has to do is re-establish respect for this franchise. He's gonna have to be less of a player's coach and more of a Head Coach. If he can do those things, he's golden. If he can't, he's gone. He doesn't have forever to do this either. Although no timeline has been laid out, you better believe they have one in mind.

    Some of you thought Revis would never be traded. He's gone. Some of you thought Tebow would be here long term. He's gone too. Some of you even think Sanchez can resurrect his career in NY. The cap hit is the only thing that's keeping Sanchez on the roster. Some of you think that Rex will be here no matter what happens this season too. Don't be so sure..
     
  5. BacktoQueens

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    Only way you earn respect is by winning. Even then you don't always get it with this media, as we saw in 09 and 10.

    You can be a players coach and a good head coach at the same time. It's not mutually exclusive. Think Mike Tomlin.
    The key is the team preparing and playing with both intensity and discipline. That's what i'm looking for this year.

    As to your last paragraph, anyone who didn't/doesn't see any of those things as possiblilities is fooling themselves.
     
  6. BomberJet

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    I like Rex just the way he is, and that is exactly what Idzik alluded to in an interview when posed a question on Mike Francessa's show.

    Mike tried to pin John by asking him if 2 very contrasting personalities can co-exist. John responded clearly and to the point that he doesn't mind at all Rex being, brash/bold and out spoken. That certainly shut Mike up in a huff.

    One thing I will always keep in my mind is that a Zebra doesn't change his stripes. So, I don''t expect Rex to defer from his zealousness the least bit. He may play it cool to see how the 2013 season unfolds, but the fire and brimstone will come out eventually.

    It's great article, and good to hear to something positive among the darksiders here.
     
  7. Zach

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    Of course.

    Winning is the name of the game. Nothing matters when you win, and winning cures every locker room problem.

    Just, as long as Ryan shows competent defense, and improvement as a HC, this year won't be the knock that could be in otherwise lameduck situation.
     
  8. Burnz

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    Rex Ryan should stay for a long time to come
     
  9. JetsFan

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    This year Bill Parcells will be inducted in the HOF, Next year I would love him back as the Jets HC.

    Rex can't control the team. BP controls everything about the team. He can call offensive and defensive plays and know management as good as anyone else. Bill made the likes of Ray Lucas a winnable QB.
     
  10. 101GangGreen101

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    What an awful idea. Parcells is done coaching. Parcells recommended Rex to us. Rex should remain here for the foreseeable future.
     
  11. Zach

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    Multitudes of Dolphins fans laugh at your stupidity.
     
  12. mezzavo

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    This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This, this, this, thissssss.......

    I can't remember who was quoted, as it was well over a year ago, but it was a player who had retired or was close to it. He played for R.R. and he said his only true fallacy as a Head Coach was his extreme loyalty to his players. The player said this would most certainly come back to bite him in the ass.

    I think the arrival of Idzik is VERY timely as it looks like he has staved off that very thing. I believe the firing of Tanny was just the tonic needed to splash across Ryan's eyes that, while he can show loyalty to his guys, that loyalty cannot be blind in detriment of the entire team. I'm sure that was a hard lesson to learn. Often times a lesson like that is ONLY learned by being fired and having it spelled out to you in the exit interview. He appears to have dodged that bullet for now.

    My guess is Ryan receives a contract extension mid-season or not at all.

    Also, for those of you who were on the wagon of bringing in Chip Kelley...let me give you a small nugget of information. Not in NY. Hell, I'm interested to see how it goes down in Philly as those fans are as bad, if not worse, than NY fans. He could be in for a real rude awakening if that offense of his doesn't register in the 40 point range each and every game. I doubt you will EVER see a coach go from the college ranks right to a NY Football coaching spot. To me that would be career suicide...hell, if I were an agent of a college coach I'd have him come to The Gang Green just to see how bad it is.

    Personally, I love Rex Ryan. Also, one last dig...his clock management is no where near as bad as people think. He sure as hell isn't Herm Edwards. That's for sure.
     
  13. JetsFan

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    Parcells is not a FO guy, GM or anyone remotely associated, but a HC he is. He can motivate players, get the best out of them. He know both sides of the ball and would be much better than Rex.
     
  14. foreboding

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    Why not?
    Starting over is just that. If Rex has learned some good lessons, I would keep him. He is a fine Defensive Coordinator and his players like him. He needs to get above the Frey and be the HC though, not a DC.
     
  15. Jersey Joe 67

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    I can't identify any particular coach but I'd want more of a disciplinarian here.
    A real HC, not just a defensive coordinator in HC guise.
     
  16. BacktoQueens

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    Sure, Mangini is available..

    You don't need a disciplinarian as a HC. in fact it's a bit outdated an approach.
    The coaching wasn't the reason we were 6-10 last year.
     
  17. Mantana Soss

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    I'll just chalk this one up to a lack of editing.
     
  18. TNJet

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    When we get rid of Sanchez, I will trust Rex's coaching, but not til then.
     
  19. 94Abraham

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    Payton can be more of the exception then the rule. I think we can all agree that almost any coach can succeed with Brees as your QB. You or no one else has no clue how Kelly will do but he is one of the brightest football minds the college level has ever seen and you would be naive if you think he cant bring part of that to the pros with some level of success. You sound like nothing more of a hater with your uninformed assumptions based off of others. The Browns suck year in and year out due to a lot of factors besides their head coach. That franchise has been a mess for a long time and the greatest head coach wouldn't make too much of a difference there.
     
  20. 94Abraham

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    Do you not realize that a lot of coaches coaching today have gotten their start at the college level at some point? You act like everyone just immediately jumped to the pros. No one is saying change the D at all so I dont know where you are getting these asinine assumptions. Rex's defense hasn't been a world beater defense either for the last 2 years. Btw, did you watch the Redskins offense this past year? It sure as hell worked for RG3. More and more teams are implementing college offenses and the Skins example is just one of many. Its nice to know you have an opinion based on nothing other then some previous great college coaches not having the best success. The league is changing and will become more wide open like the college game due to all the stupid rule changes. Teams will have to adapt at some point.
     

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