Used to be a Sanchez supporter until the Tennessee game this past season...don't know how anyone can still like him after that mess.
32 more days to no mo sancho.... this is really the only thing worth discussing about sanchez at this point.
Sanchez has been handed crap ro play with. Clevelands castoff, a Vagiants ex con as starting WR no first round talent around him One of 5, in the history of the NFL fastest to thirty wins So when Sanchez wins its the team. When the team loses its Sanchez. Right?
Idzik, is not paying 8 million to a guy to surf and bang supermodels, while the Jets go into the season with a 35 year old, that hasnt played a down in 2 seasons, a rookie from an airraid offense, and a guy that took 11 sacks in his lone start. Oh, and btw...ill clue you in a bit. You can stop counting the calendar. A june 1 cut can be cut at anytime, the designation is available to the club, whenever they want it. Put simply, in deference to your acumen, they can cut Sanchez right now, and designate him a June 1 cut.
On two runs, including fourth down? Yup Marks fault. Maybe..,just maybe, the playcalling is suspect? Heres a recap of the Steelers game 24-0 at the half. Yup...Marks fault. Though the strip/TD is partly on him, but doesnt everyone blaming Sanchez alone, say what a great OL we have? And cou,dnt muster one running yard at the goal line, when it counted? Failure to get a stop, in the fourth quarter. Yup....Marks fault.
No one, not even junc or Hobbes, could disagree with you for feeling that way after that game. It truly was the lowest I have ever seen Sanchez. That includes that Bills game his rookie year, the butt fumble game, etc. Like I wrote earlier in the thread, I am concerned that he may not be able to get how 2012 ended out of his head for 2013.
I would disagree. Of all the sub-par QBs in the league it looks like Sanchez has lasted the longest. I remember the Henne-Fitz-Sanchez watch articles. Then is switched to Moore-Fitz-Sanchez, then Tannyhill-Fitz-Sanchez. Funny how the guys everyone thought were going to chase Tom Brady kept getting replaced. Fitzharvard is in the league 8 years and got cut again. Sanchez, while falling down is still competing for a job. Honestly I expect (and hope) he wins. If anyone in this fan base wants a long-term successful franchise QB, we should be hoping Geno rides the pine a few years until the OLine and receiving weapons are in place and he develops properly. Otherwise this will be another QB that will be fucked up by the franchise.
Yes, weve established that. Wins are a team stat,. Losses are a Sanchez stat. Like that 12 minute miami deive, the Tebow comeback, and the inability to stop Pittsburgh, with the Superbowl on the line. Thats the joke here. Has Sanchez underperformed, not in question. But thats a symptom, the actual disease, goes beyond the player. Unless we are now showering Schotty, who abused two other QBs, and Sparano, who couldnt get another OC gig with hosannahs..., Look, you guys make it seem like Junc,cval, and me are making Sanchez out to be Joe Montana, thats not the case. The guy is a talented football player, disserved by the organization, and is..,,in fact able to be the player he was drafted to be. You haters treat the guy like he is Ryan fucking Leaf. The man has taken his lumps, faced the criticism like a man, (geno, after the first round..,not so much), and is arguably the most physically gifted QB the Jets have drafted since OBrien. Those on the Sanchez side dont see the wisdom in eating the five overall pick, in concert with the Gholston pick, without seeing what a good coaching staff can do. And now, that you have no other viable QB on the roster, whats the harm? Of Smith is to be your starter in 14 why not get him the weapons, the team never gave Sanchez?
There is no 1 true way/method to develop a QB. Sitting for a year doesn't guarantee that he'll be good. Just as starting day 1 doesn't either. If you have a decent QB 9 outta 10 he'll overcome any perceived obstacles whether its bad coaching, bad o line, no weapons etc. the best thing is to have him compete and let him earn the job.
And another thing having to have all other phases of the team be damn near perfect is not the way to build a team. We see Hobbes and junc complain about the "defense let him down" or "not enough weapons" or "oline sucks". It would be nice to watch a game and know that if we get behind 14-3 or 14-0 that the game isn't over. Or if a receiver drops a pass that it won't be devasting or if the RB loses yards or the QB gets sacked that the OC can actually attempt a pass on 3rd and long instead of a draw play because you don't trust the QB. It would be nice to know that even if the defense gives up a big play that we can have a QB that can make plays. Sanchez sucking has been a draining experience for the team and the fans. The defense had to hold the other team from scoring because the offense can't generate points. The o line which has been solid throughout Sanchez tenure had to be perfect. The receivers had more pressure to catch those shitty passes because Mark can't consistently throw the football well. RB's with constant stacked boxes because the opposing defense don't respect him throwing the ball deep. A special teams that was solid but made mistakes that hurt us way more than it should. Give me a QB that can give all other aspects of the team the luxury of *gasps* making a mistake without it feeling like the end of the world.
Just not the case and has been proven over and over. From the Jim Plunketts to the Steve Youngs to the Alex Smiths, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Brett Favre, Jay Cutler. To be a good QB you need weapons. This whole Qbs make players better around them is crap good to great WR make Qbs more than Qbs make WRs. Geno from what I saw needs a lot of work learning and NFL offense it will help him to sit and learn. He is not a top 10 pick so the Jets have the luxury of letting him learn. He is not a runner he is a pocket passer so it will take more time and better weapons to make him successful. Lets not ruin another QB.
Sanchez got 4 years because when he failed it was going to cost the GM his job. The other guys on that list all cost their GM's job also or will shortly.
Right and then you had QB's that started day 1 like Montana, Peyton, Marino, etc. If you have a bad QB it makes the WR's job harder to become effective.
Is this your new favorite stat? You've repeated it a 1,000 times already! I'm certain that the stat is wrong anyways. It took Sanchez 49 starts to get to 30 wins. There are more than 5 QBs currently starting in the NFL that made it to 30 wins in fewer starts. Joe Flacco only needed 47 starts to get to 30 wins. Big Ben only needed 42 starts to get to 30 wins. Brady only needed 39 starts to get to 30. Matt Ryan only needed 43 starts to get to 30 wins. Michael Vick only needed 46 starts to get to 40. Tony Romo only needed 44 starts to get to 30 wins. Phillip Rivers only needed 44 starts to get to 30 wins. Those are just the guys I looked in to that are still playing. I'm certain there are plenty more if I start going through the history of the NFL. Who cares about getting to 30 wins anyway? It is not some great accomplishment to win 30 games in 49 starts.
There is hope for us, Jets fans. Sanchez's time is limited. They may or may not cut him prior to the season, but he is no longer the present AND future QB of this franchise. At best, he's just the present QB. The Jets brass made that pretty clear with the selection of Smith. If you like Mark, you better hope he significantly outperforms Smith in training camp/preseason. If it looks like they are even in terms of their ability to run this offense, or even CLOSE to even, Geno Smith will start and Sanchez will be cut prior to week 1. Sanchez has to be much better...
