Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    You've invested a lot of time and money in Sanchez so you waste more hoping in year five he can at least be as cr@ppy as he was his rookie year?

    your rediculous comment was ridiculous.
     
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    I wouldn't say that Sanchez sucks as an NFL quarterback but he's currently broken and I'm not sure if he can be fixed as of right now. At least not here in New York alongside surrounding media he can't. I mean, Sanchez is a strong physical talent in whom can make all the NFL throws on the football field, he's only 26 years of age with 4 years of NFL starting experience along with postseason experience and also has the right work ethic along with film study focus needed in order to become successful. The potential is without question there, but I believe it's with another team moving forward.

    It's been our front office and/or coaching staff in which has turned the potential of Sanchez completely upside down. To the point of almost no return. They've ruined this kid. Sanchez seeing three different offensive systems during only a five year span is enough to mentally break any learning/developing quarterback. USC during his final college season, three years under an awful offensive coordinator in Schottenheimer Jr. along with one season under a first year offensive coordinator in Tony Sparano. Pretty much impossible to overcome those types of situations when in regards to a developing quarterback.

    Sanchez was put in position to completely break as a developing QB who came into this league with only one year of college starting experience. He's been completely handcuffed by our entire coaching staff since day one. To the point of ruining his potential, destroying his self confidence, hurting his belief in himself as an NFL quarterback along with stunting his growth and/or overall development. Now all we're seeing in return is a young quarterback who second guesses himself just about each and every time he drops back. It's not all his fault either.

    He's been completely handcuffed over the years and this falls on coach Ryan along with our entire front office. 2009 we ranked 32nd in pass attempts, 2010 we ranked 18th in pass attempts, 2011 we ranked 17th in pass attempts and last season we only ranked 25th in pass attempts. Andrew Luck as a rookie last season ranked 5th in pass attempts. Cam Newton and Andy Dalton as a rookies the season before ranked 13th and 14th in pass attempts (just for examples). Stafford does have Calvin Johnson but Stafford came into this league the same year as Sanchez but yet ranked 1st in pass attempts last season.

    While we've delayed the development of Sanchez other teams have given their young quarterbacks a chance to develop along with improve. Hopefully we don't make these same mistakes with Geno which I don't believe we will due to Geno being NFL ready after three years of starting experience with West Virginia. You need continuity. If Sanchez can 100% accept the role of a backup, I'd love for our front office to re-structure his contract but if Sanchez is unwilling to do so, he's must go elsewhere.
     
  4. Ben Had

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    Geno's starting experience at WV has nothing to do with him being NFL ready.
     
  5. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    it doesnt make sense to cut him at that point. if we cut him now we save ourselves of any cap hit next season. if we cut him after june 1st and let him compete and then cut him he is on the books for next year
     
  6. jerseyjay14

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    he has been handcuffed because everytime we tried to open up the offense and let him pass more he has played terribly and cost us games. tough to let a guy air it out when he throws 4 or 5 picks
     
  7. Don

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    I think you just did say he sucks but in nicer terms.
     
  8. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    this exactly.... when your "best season" sees you turning it over 21 times and completing less then 55% of your attempts you know you really suck at the position.

    if geno smith did that every year we would consider him a bust and bad player. that was marks peak
     
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    Jets fans not liking this kid is mindblowing. Do you guys not know the Jets history? Sanchez is a HUGE bright spot of it.
     
  10. ArmandJ

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    Get a room, already. Maybe Sanchez will have some left after his other two sycophants on here are done with him.
     
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    Exactly, every time he has been given more responsibility he has failed, it has been removed and he has been a given a form of the colored coded wristband.

    No QB has ever had it easier and been more protected than Sanchez was in 2009-2010. He had the strongest running game in the league, the Jets rarely passed, defense had to gameplan primarily against the run putting 8-9 men in the box all game daring Sanchez to throw, he was not allowed to throw in passing situations to limit his exposure to turnovers and he rarely ever had to play from behind. Any QB in the league throwing in these type of situations would put up astronomical numbers.

    When the Jets tried to open up the offense and let him throw in situations a normal QB would face in 2011 he failed miserably.

    The Jets did a masterful job developing Sanchez and hiding his weaknesses in 2009-2010. No QB has ever had it easier. Bascially he got to sit and acclimate the 1st two years doing nothing but handing the ball off and throwing to uncovered receivers, The problem is Sanchez. Sanchez had the same turnover and panic under pressure problems in 2009-2010 as he had the next two years except the first two years they simply limited his exposure to making mistakes. In obvious passing situations they would run the ball or give him a quick pass or three step drop. He has been given every opportunity time and time again for four years now and he has failed every time. His play has actually improved the last two years its just that he has to play more often in situations now that a normal QB would play in which gives him more opportunity to make mistakes.
     
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    how is it mind blowing? with our playoffs hopes on the line and needing to get just 1 score he throws 5 picks! 5! this after crapping away the prior winnable games as well. for all the good he did in 09 and 00 he threw away playoff chances the last 2 years. and the only reason he had a chance to do well in the playoffs the first 2 seasons was because the defense/run game/special teams were all amazing.

    sanchez is my least favorite jet of all time. including guys like Gholston and dewayne robertson
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Isn't it amazing? Outside of the '68 postseason the NE div rd win in 2010 is probably the greatest win in franchise history and Mark was a huge part of that yet gets absolutely no respect for it.

    Mark stunk last year and I understand the fans being down on him but to act like he never did anything for us is completely unfair.
     
  14. jerseyjay14

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    he didint stink last year, he stunk in '09, '10', '11, and '12

    lets not pretend like he hasnt been absolutely terrible all 4 years of his career. Beating the pats provided a great moment. one of the best maybe in franchise history. the problem is, even that isnt enough to overshadow being one of the wost starting QB in franchise history, and the worst in the league over the past 4 seasons.

    It took a MIRACLE from our defense and special teams, and us getting gifts with the colts resting guys for us to even make the playoffs in 2009. our defense and run game carries us to the playoffs the first 2 seasons. last couple years they werent good enough to overcome how bad sancehz was and we ended up missing out.

    you put ANY other nfl QB on this team and we are more succesful in 4 years then we would be with mark. give us an AVERAGE QB and we would ahve made the playoffs all 4 years easily
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you just don't have any idea what you are watching if you think he stunk all 4 years. It's not worth even discussing if that is what you are saying.

    Maybe we win a few more reg season games w/ other QBs(and finish in the same playoff position anyway) but we don't win as many playoff games w/ any other QBs. Other QBs had more talent to work with, had homefield, etc... and still couldn't win as much in postseason.
     
  16. BrowningNagle

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    Except you DON'T "understand the fans being down on him" - you've made that clear all offseason. You are too funny sometimes Junc.
     
  17. jerseyjay14

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    he was awful all 4 seasons. if you dont agree then you either are a huge sanchez homer or dont know football. he was better some years as opposed to others, but still god awful all 4 seasons. i dont see why other qbs wouldnt/couldnt have won 4 playoffs games. we had a great defense and running game and in 2009 we didnt beat anyone great to get to the AFCG.

    he was the worst qb in football in 2009.
    he was bottom 5 in 2010
    he was bottom 10 in 2011
    he was the worst in football in 2012

    he sucked all 4 years and was never even an average QB. last year he was the worst starting PLAYER(not qb, but overall player) in football. if there was a league LVP, he'd have won it.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    You assume that other QBs would've done it... lots of them far better and surrounded by more talent than Mark Sanchez... except there's one big difference... THEY HAVEN'T!
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    why can't people read? where did I say I didn't understand the fans being down on him? My issue is that the fans blame him 100% for all that goes wrong, he sucked this year as did the whole team. I get being down, I don't get the quitters mentality to want to move on so quickly.

    you show how little you know w/ this asinine post. the only year he was bad was 2012, he wasn't close to the worst in 2009. he had a good year fro a rookie then elevated his game in postseason, in 2010 he was a top 10 type QB, in 2011 mid of the pack then thus past year bottom.

    Great defenses can't win consistently w/ QBs that suck, how would our good but not great D be able to win consistently?
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    HAHA whatever you say Junc. Continue your foolish defense of Sanchez and bashing of those that criticize. At least that's consistent!
     
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