So Backwards You've got it so backwards.... The 49ers have the luxury of passing on BPAs to plug holes. They have depth, they can field a competitive team already. All they need is a few studs at particular spots, and they should be the favorites to win the SB. The NYJ have no such luxury. They can't afford to pass up the BPA, regardless of position. The only positions where we couldn't improve were C and CB. Injuries to Mangold and Revis, and the subsequent Revis trade have changed that for us. I'd suggest that we should be reasonably happy with our LT, RE, DE, and 1CB, and drafting for those positions would be a waste. Apart from that, the Jets need improvement at every single position. I understand the urge to cherry pick the weakest positions on the roster, but the clear truth is we need help everywhere and drafting anything other than BPA--on the NYJ board, not Kiper's or Mayock's--would have been unacceptable. I can't tell you how happy I am that we didn't have another Tanny draft. Edit: JustaJetFan is too fast for me. Kudos.
It's highly debatable that the guys we took were the "BPA" as the front office would like to claim. But I hope that they were right.
Thank you... I was going to post the exact same thing. I don't like the Geno pick but he was 39th.... we traded a 2nd rounder to move up and grab Sancheeze.
Geno haters will call him a bust no matter where he was drafted. I not a big Geno fan, but willing to give him a chance drafting him at #39, it was a good value.
Agreed. I think a lot of fans worry about the holes their team has during the offseason and whether those holes get filled. I just think we need to get back to having an identity on this team. We need to leverage our strengths and avoid our weaknesses. As we start bringing talent on this team, we will know what we can and can't do.
The more I think about it, the more I love the Richardson pick. I remember when I thought the Giants were nuts for drafting DL in the 1st round year after year when it was already the strength of their D. --I'm not a NY/NJ guy, so I couldn't care less about them, and I got to really enjoy watching them terrorize Brady in two SBs. I'm excited about the prospect that we can do that to him twice a year. I know this is the best DL we've had since Abraham/Ferguson/filler/Ellis......and it should be quite a bit better. Likely the best since the NY Sack Exchange. And our corners should be much better than those Giants teams'.
Excuse me?? We did address some needs, can't do it all in one draft. Some Jet fans think the draft is the only place to get players. We have between now and Sept to get some players, the process isn't over.
Another clueless poster. I don't know where to begin. You said, "The Jets can't address needs because they have too many." Then how the hell do you expect them to rebuild the team if they don't address the needs on their team, Einstein? Then you go on to say, "Where do you even get "deepest WR draft in years" when we have no idea how any of these WR's will do." It's called the draft brainiac. That's the whole point of all this talk. Evaluating different players and positions for draft purposes. Don't get mad because the scouts rated this a deep WR draft. Here's a little tip on rebuilding a franchise or just adding to a talented franchise. You evaluate players based on the best talent available ALONG with what the biggest needs on the team are. You don't just take BPA to add talent if you're already strong on that position. Especially when different position players are equally talented and one fills a need more than the other. Thank goodness you're not drafting. If you can't handle other opinions then don't read the posts.
Talk about a contradictory statement. When you're one of the prohibitive favorites to win the Super Bowl you have the luxury of passing on a need because you're already stacked at every position. You have much less needs to fill than a team with many holes. This is exactly when you have the luxury of picking BPA to add more talented depth to a team that's already loaded. The only one who has it ass backwards is you.
Hes right. The Geno pick was ludicrous. Hes a multi year project that all but ensures your favorite player, Mark Sanchez, remains under center. P.S. Sanchez, was better at the same point in time. More YPA, Higher QB Rating, better bowl performance, coming out of college.
:lol: I think that sentence went over your head, which is partly my fault because I worded it wrongly. I meant the Jets have so many needs, that every draft pick is arguably addressing a need. DT, CB, QB, and FB are all needs which they addressed in this draft. Also, when rebuilding you need to acquire talent because chances are, you've traded your few talented players in order to build toward the future. Once, you have the franchise player, you can start addressing needs. Whose the Jets franchise player? Mangold? lol The scouts.....All the scouts loved Ryan Leaf, and Jamarcus Russell, too. Point is, you can't judge a draft until the players play, and preferably play a few years, or more. Also, when you're building a team, you go for franchises players, whether you have starters at that position or not. Just ask GB how that worked out with Farve and Rogers.
We are good at everything but Safety and maybe TE for a year. Next year we will just buy what we need in free agency so relax. It isn't like we are going to miss the superbowl because Cumberland is out TE or anything.
I would 100% agree with that. That's why it cost us a first round pick, a second round pick, three depth players, and an incredibly large now prohibitive contract to draft Mark, while it's costing us simply a second round pick and (relative) chump change for Geno. At the same time, Mark didn't improve much after college. Here's hoping Geno does.
I would also add a OLB and a WR. If we run a base 4-3, we have Harris as MLB (even though he's a better fit for a 3-4 MLB) and Demario Davis as one 4-3 OLB. We still need a 4-3 OLB. As far as WR goes, Holmes will likely be gone next year, and then we have just Hill and Kerley. Need another. That being said, assuming we make the right moves for the rest of this offseason, we'll have tons of cap room to work with next year. We could snag someone like Jimmy Graham, Jairus Byrd, Donte Whitner.etc
I disagree. You fill needs when you're on the verge. The Niners are on the verge of a Super Bowl and filled needs. For example, lets say the Niners somehow have the first pick in next year's draft (like the Jags made a dumbass trade). Would they draft Teddy Bridgewater? No, because they have Kaepernick. No team in the NFL is "needless" even if they are Super Bowl contenders. The Jets on the other hand can't afford reaching for players because they need talent, no matter where. No one on the team is going to stop them from drafting the best player available. If you reach on players to fill a need, then you fill your squad with a bunch of okay players. Last year we drafted two safeties. Lets see how they do. We still have receivers (Kerley and Hill). Yes, we need a TE and an OLB. But the front office didn't think they're worth those picks. So I agree in not taking them.
