I think as far as team speed goes, the Jets definitely improved immensely. A defensive Tackle doing the 40 in under 4.8 is unheard of. Millner is also super fast and has great lateral quickness. Geno is also very agile and quick, although I still question the Jets picking him in the 2nd. The Ivory I have never seen so I can't comment - many say he is a steal justgiving a 4th rounder but he hasn't played much to make a solid judgement on.
I don't understand why we need to draft according to need in the later rounds. Isn't that what we did with Bush and Allen last year? Why are we going to draft more safeties if we're not going to play them? That makes no sense and keeps teams in the same situation. Draft talent.
Round one gets a gentlemen's C. Rounds 2-5 were better. Rounds 6-7 were just disappointing. I give it a B-.
I went with an overall C. Unfortunately, some of their targets were off the board, so Milliner sounds like a decent value pick. B- Richardson seems talented but not a position of need. Lotulelei was there for the taking and would have been a better fit. C Geno Smith has ability but a lot of teams passed on him twice and I think there are some questions about his personality. B- Winters addressed a need but is unproven against top competition while Dallas Thomas was still on the board. C- Chris Ivory has proven to be a successful RB in the NFL and seems like a hidden gem, if a bit of an injury risk. Safer than drafting Lattimore. B+ Hard to know about Aboushi but he sounds like an intense personality and hard worker. Those traits alone upgrade him from Ducasse. B Campbell seems to have been a wasted pick. Should've grabbed Rambo. F A fullback? D
Gave it a B , Im not sure if all of you expected to fill the holes with immediate starters in one draft. We got great talent and value on both sides of the ball. Would have liked to see a FS chosen but maybe they like what they see from Bush or Allen. Cant complain about line depth, improving the front 7, and secondary. Oh yeah and grabbing some legitimate competition for Sanchez/ new qb.
But none of this matters cause the majority of you basically just listen to mel kiper and read what other idiot fans say. Lets give these guys a chance to earn their grade
A and this is my reasoning: CB, DT, QB and all value picks at positions the Jets had a need at. G, [RB], G, T, H-back all at positions the Jets had a need at and not moving off of their list in the process. Missing things included S, OLB and TE. The fact that the Jets did not reach to fill other positions they had a need at but doubled up at certain positions tells me that they stuck to their board. I'm hoping we get this every year. It was so nice not to just give up picks to move up and cherry-pick the people we wanted. I would have supported a move up for Geno Smith because his value was just very strong once pick 33 rolled around but I am glad the Jets didn't make the move. We got the players we got later on because Smith fell to us at 39 instead of us forcing the issue.
So you're OK with us not addressing serious areas of need when there were capable prospects available at that spot because it shows they stuck to their board? Don't you question their board at some point? Like maybe they shouldn't have had so many lineman ahead of all our areas of need. So if next year they draft another four lineman you'd be OK with it?
Serious areas of need? QB, and OL weren't serious areas of need, with the loss of Sione and Devito DL wasnt an area of need? Eifert was the only other offensive player even in the conversation at 13 and he ended up going right where he should have 21
For a team that is rebuilding you take the best players available to you. Reaching for positions of need instead of taking the BPA is a guaranteed way to lose value. Later on in the process when the roster has been fleshed out for talent there's room to make minor positional adjustments if the players are close in overall value. At this point there isn't. The Jets need the value more than the position if they want to close the gap with the elite teams in the NFL. We just got insanely lucky that a CB and a QB both dropped to us in the 1st and 2nd carrying much more value than the slot as well as being a very useful piece in the puzzle.
I hope we sign a couple new guys as undrafted free agents. DaRick Rodgers would be a solid pick up if still available
Pretty much this. I give it a C-. Didn't address TE, Pass rushing OLB, S or WR. This was one of the deepest WR drafts in years and they didn't even get one. They didn't address many areas of need which will hurt them this season. I liked Milliner, Smith and Winters picks but that was it. They key is Smith. If he turns out to be legit then Idzik becomes a genius. If not, this draft was shaky at best.
Actually, I think the key of the draft is Richardson. We gave up Revis to get him. Milliner is solid and Geno only cost a 2nd rounder. So Richardson is the make or break pick. If Sheldon becomes an All-pro, we can forgive the Geno selection and take a QB next year.
Probably go B with the talent, but F with the needs so Id say D There were very few picks where I thought the Jets made a good pick. The only real steal I thought was Aboushi
If the draft is depressing you at the moment let me throw out a few interesting notes. Gil Brandt released his updated top 100 + 25 a few days ago. He only puts out two lists. He puts out a pre-combine list and then one a few days before the draft. The Jets got 3 of his top 13 and 4 of his top 58 in this draft. If you look at his pre-combine list which is only 100 players the Jets had 3 of his top 13 guys and 5 of the top 86 guys there. Brandt makes mistakes, like everybody, but he has been very accurate at predicting top NFL ability over the years. Go look at the CBS Sports draft site and start paging through teams drafts to see how they came out. The Jets look very good there. They weren't reaching or making guesses on even the late round picks. Very few teams have a draft sheet that look like they picked 3 times in the 1st round and have nobody who is ungraded on the list. Very few teams look like they have no impulse picks. We had pros running this draft and it shows. The 5 guys that Gil Brandt liked in his top 100 before the combine? CBS Sports all liked them going into the night of the draft.
Yes we can still take a QB next year but no one will forget or forgive the Geno pick as it's a QB which is the marquee position and it's a QB in NY which puts the spotlight on him even more. Richardson being an All-pro will help soften the blow but Geno was the headliner pick in this draft for the Jets.
D We didnt address any of our immediate needs going into the draft; OL / Pass Rushing OLB / TE / S Our offense ranked 30th (out of 32 teams) in yards per game. Our plan to address this glaring failure to move the ball was to draft defense @9 and then defense @ 13. Our greatest strength last year was pass defense (2nd in the league vs the pass (YPG). Pretty impressive considering that we didn’t have Revis for 13 games, AND our D was devoid of any resemblance of a pass rush. I don’t give a shit that Millner was the best player on the board. IMO, Kyle Wilson is a capable starting cornerback. I wouldn’t expect to see him in the Pro Bowl, - but I felt he was good enough to start and compete. Have no understanding of the Sheldon Richardson pick. Couldn’t have predicted that in 30 different mocks. I personally feel that we’re getting a little all over the place with this 3-4/4-3 hybrid nonsense. IMO, Geno Smith is not starter material. I thought it be more beneficial to try & fill as many missing pieces of a puzzle, before hitting the panic button that forced us into drafting a QB. Even at 39, - I am just real skeptical of his abilities to compete at the NFL level. And Brian Winters was the last O-lineman I wanted the JETS to draft. I’ve watched this guy in a couple of games & nothing convinces me he will be able to compete at the NFL level either. I see another Slauson. The reason it didn’t get an F is the Chris Ivory trade. So last 3 yrs, we go D lineman in the 1st round. And we’ve spent our 1st rounder on CB in 3 of the last 7 drafts (Revis – 2007 / K. Wilson – 2010 and now Millner-2013) Don’t forget we ended up paying a 2nd rounder in 2011 for Cromartie). I just didn’t like it at all.
Gave it B - simply because it didn't include A-. Wasn't going to give A in the face of Geno Smith pick. (Would have liked Damontre Moore a lot more. He slid all the way down to 3rd round.) Other than that pick, I liked the draft in general. A lot. The way the draft went really rang true to what I believe in. Jets OL was thoroughly depleted of depth - and it was refilled in a hurry. Also came a capable RB (Chris Ivory) and decent FB at 7th round. (He might stick. He looked pretty decent at least on scouting tapes.) So, if the picks pan out like they are supposed to (I believe that will happen - it did in Seattle.) the trench is set for a few years down the road. Even the RT position might have a suitable backup in time. I like that. Added bonus? The backfield looks set all of a sudden. You have to like that. This draft did fix a lot of troubles on the roster. All right - this team was devoid of talents, and had massive holes all over the roster. You cannot fill them all in one draft. OLB/TE remains a big hole still, but at least we know Jets don't have to worry about the OL/DL/Secondary. Here's a small hoping that RB situation is fixed, and who knows? Marty might prefer mobile QB that can throw (which obviously favors Smith). TE was always a big part of Marty's offense so we know which way the draft should be looking at next season. If Geno does play well in due time, they are one TE away from a really good offense. Jets can think of LBs and safeties all they want after picking a good TE in 1st round (provided he is there.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Still. I cannot give A. I didn't think any QB was worthy of any pick higher than 4th round at best. There was a better batch of QBs coming out next year as well, so why blow a high pick on a QB that you KNOW will not play? I cannot agree with that thought at all.
