Welcome 2013 1st Round Pick DT Sheldon Richardson

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  1. cbman13

    cbman13 Well-Known Member

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    I get the felling he's gonna move around the line alot. I heard they had him be a LB in certain formations in college. Anyone think that can translate to the NFL?
     
  2. laxin

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    The Jets with Rex seem to have hit on the last 2 DLmen selected in the 1st, so they must be evaluating something right at the position. Hopefully that continues.
     
  3. Borgata

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    Keeps making me think of those games against the Patriots where we would have our defense walking around the line of scrimmage before the snap to disguise our formation.
     
  4. Win4ever

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    This one, as I think I mentioned on the draft thread I believe, was a bit confusing for the reason that the two guys that we all figured were better (and would've been fine if they were taken) were still on the board.

    It was a choice to pick Richardson over those two, but I'm not completely sure what the reasoning was. I thought Star was the best bet among the three, and a tossup between Floyd and Richardson. Maybe the heart condition scared the Jets medical staff enough to red flag Star, and they were left to pick between Floyd and Richardson.

    The DL is atleast shaping up to be pretty good for the future, and if the Giants have done anything well, it's to show that a dominant DL can be very valuable in the playoffs.
     
  5. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I was wondering how he'd fit in, too, but given the multiple fronts Rex likes to run, and given his track record with defensive linemen, I think he'll find a way to make it work. He's a disruptive player.

    Out of the three linemen, he's probably the best pass rusher. With Wilkerson, Coples and Richardson on the line, it'll be very tough for linemen to stop all three every play as well as another player or two.
     
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    Thanks for the insite, he looks like he disrupts the protection on every play. The Dline is going to be sick.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Being the best football player at a certain position doesn't mean that they grade highest on a team's board. They draft for what fits their team.

    Last night I had an inkling that the FO was going BPA simply because they had no interest in keeping Rex around, but that was my reactionary take.

    Richardson can be a game changer for the Jets in Rex's system.

    3-4 fronts were the strength of this hybrid, while sets with four down linemen were a weakness. Rex tried everything with his existing personnel to get production in 4-3, nickel and dime sets, but he really only had players that performed well against the run in those situations, in terms of interior linemen.

    I have to admit that I did not do a whole hell of a lot of draft research outside of my perceived weaknesses for this team.

    But watching Richardson play in the film that is available online, he is the perfect 4-3 3T for this hybrid, because he can also play NT in personnel shifts and he will also move to DE in other 3-4 passing sets.

    Fucking amazing burst, great footwork and hand-fighting, and he has a knack for the 3 and 5 gaps. But he also has excellent moves.

    He could end up being the best defensive lineman we have had in a long time.

    I am now very excited that we drafted Sheldon Richardson.

    I didn't want to say this, but I will anyway. The dude reminds me a lot of Warren Sapp.
     
  8. Win4ever

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    He has a lot of ability, and I heard rumors that a few teams were interested in him and going to move up for him. Although, I heard teams were going to trade up for Geno, and that Nassib, and Barkley could be gone in the first as well.

    I'm not smart enough to really dissect much from the tapes, because I think DL and OL are the hardest to pick apart from tapes, because you can't really focus on what is actually happening, but what the intention is. So if say, the play was to slant to the right, shade the defense to the right, and they called wrong, the RB ran left and right by Richardson, did he fail even if he got by his man? Did his man let him upfield by design because they were taking him away from the play anyway? How are they double teaming him? Is it by design? Did he run into the double team on purpose to let a blitzing LB go free?

    It's just so hard to tell from these tapes, which is why these aren't really sexy picks. DE's, LBs, CBs have much better defined roles that we can measure success by visually. It's especially harder because his defense sucked around him. But there were some nice bright spots, so maybe we saw something similar to what we saw with Wilkerson.

    But hopefully he works out. A really good and young DL can go a long way to rebuilding our team. His versatility does help
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You are absolutely correct. One of the hardest things I have ever tried to do is analyze a defensive or offensive lineman's play based on film/tape/YouTube. Especially an interior lineman.

    They are part of a tight unit that all rely upon each other and you really can only watch their first move and then can never really tell how the following actions are part of the designed scheme and not a quick reaction to something unexpected that happens immediately after the snap.

    That is why you hardly ever see an intelligent analyst talk about a DL or OL player making their assignment, because unless the player or their coach tells them what the assignment was, they are just blowing smoke up your ass.

    It's not about being intelligent enough, it is just about having access to that info, which is rare.

    I prefer to dwell on technique and results, which is all we really have to go on with these guys.
     
  10. RIPJimLeonhard

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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think the moron saying Buddy Ryan was Mayock. He can be a complete idiot if he isn't reading from a piece of paper in front of him or a teleprompter.
     
  12. Ten

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    I watched Richardson on draftbreakdown and I was surprised by the amount of snaps he played at the one tech. He didn't hold up well to double teams when the guard was blocking down but I do feel better about the pick. I could see him lining up as the one tech on passing downs or in the base against passing teams. Ellis would rotate in on the running downs and play base against ground 'n pound teams.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    A-gap is a hard assignment and we don't know what the deal is with his shoulder, but I think he has the quickness to break through and disrupt the play in that event. I've read that his upper body needs help, so I wouldn't be surprised not to see him nosing through the extreme interior until 2014.

    Right now I think that his best skills would benefit the passing game, though. Especially without speed on the edge.

    Penetration against the pass is a rarity with this defense unless they use smoke and mirrors.
     
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    Reading through this thread, you would think the Jets passed up Andrew Luck for this guy. Richardson has alot of pros. Crapping your pants over this pick is a total overreaction.
     
  15. Harpua

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    A lot of that depends on his assignment going into a play. If you are supposed to shoot the gap, drawing a double team assigned to move you for a run is a natural counter to what you are trying to do. If you trying to eat the double team your going to have a completely different stance coming off the line.

    Watch some of his game films on you tube, I linked a few in the draft forum. He does get washed out while trying to get skinny and shoot the gap, but when he faces a double head on he holds his own more often than not. A lot of it will depend on how we decide to use him. As a one gap penetrator or give him two gap assignments. He has the size and arm length to succeed either way. His versatility in that respect is what makes him such an attractive pick for a Rex Ryan defense.
     
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    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN 19m
    Analysis from Wk 1: Jets rookie DL Sheldon Richardson was tied for 2nd in the league in "run stop percentage" (w/Justin Smith) by @PFF. #nyj
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Awesome bump!!!
     
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    Best pick of the draft right here.
     
  20. Axel3419

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    It's crazy how virtually no one had him pegged to go to the Jets. No one, not even the draft experts. I mean it makes sense because his position was not a need, but I love Idzik's draft mantra: draft by talent, not by need.
     

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