The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. jbiddy4

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    you have a beautiful singing voice
     
  2. laxin

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    Nolan Nawrocki, is that you?


    Btw, do you have a link about the academic part? Googled it and nothing.
     
  3. SienaSaints

    SienaSaints Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure if you fail a test 100 times and you pass the test 1 time you're only going to care about the 1 time that you pass. Just because other QBs haven't been good out of an air raid doesn't mean that Geno Smith is going to be terrible because he played in an air raid.

    Have you even watched any video of him playing?
     
  4. Fightin'JetTitan

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    Whether you're pro/con of the drafting of "*Geno*me Project", shouldn't we reserve passing judgement after a
    thorough review of his performance during off-season team practice/drills, preseason participation and (if) any, regular season action??? In all honesty, NONE of us here knows JACK-SH#T on whether he will be a pro-level qb or not - ALL of us offering nothing more but our B.S. opinions based on what we've viewed of him during his college career. Basically all this pick does is bring a varied level of qb competition at certain levels; Your "franchise failure", back-up, over-hyped commercial athlete, a semi-vet & oft-injured qb & a draft pick.
    Let's just wait & see how this all plays out!

    'Nuff said.
     
  5. laxin

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    Thats very true. Lets give this guy a chance. He should give this fanbase some sense of hope, because if we hit on this pick it could be huge. If we miss, its only a 2nd round pick. As Idzik says, lets let this play out.
     
  6. truthbtold

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    MM just came off of four years coaching Vick. You think just maybe they drafted Geno Smith because MM feels he's got a skill set that's suited for what he wants to run, more than any of the other guys currently on the roster or available in the draft? If the new OC didn't think the kid would fit well into his system, you think they would have drafed him?

    As far as the list of QB's being abject failures ... so what? How many of those guys were looked at as good NFL prospects to begin with? I'd say maybe one or two. Geno is by far the most highly touted Air Raid QB in the history of the system. Those other guys weren't expected to transition well into the NFL, so why should anyone be surprised that they didn't?

    Knocking his intelligence is just a ridiculous comment on your part. All you need to do is listen to the way the man speaks, and carries himself and you can tell he's not a stupid guy. GPAs have very little to do with how intelligent a guy is on the football field. You don't run 100+ plays a game without processing a high volume of information in a short period of time. I seriously doubt that the kid is an idiot.

    What holes should we have filled with the 39th pick? We drafted two solid defensive players early. We picked up Ivory to bolster our RB depth. Holmes is coming back next season. Kerley showed enough last year to count on him going forward as our slot receiver. Are you ready to give up on Stephen Hill already? What WR did you want to add at 39? Or did you want to draft a TE at 39? Who? ... the best two TE prospects were already gone. Drafting Geno was the best value we were going to get with that pick. We filled a need by drafting an OLineman with our next pick. If you want big time weapons on offense you'll have to wait for the 1st and 2nd rounds of next year's draft to get them.

    Geno Smith is worth taking a gamble. If it doesn't work out, it's not that big of a hit.
     
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  7. Catfish Billy

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    He makes quick decisions, and is accurate. In the WCO, that's pretty key. We'll see how Morton Wig coaches him up.
     
  8. Gastin-oh

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    Of the 15 or so years of the Air Raid - 6 in the first 3 rounds
    2 - 1st Round (Includes overall 1st Tim Couch, 22nd pick Brandon Weeden)
    3- 2nd Round (Kevin Kolb, Geno Smith, John Beck)
    1- 3rd (Nick Foles)
     
  9. Borgata

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    With MM as OC I think Geno has come to one of the best spots for him to succeed. MM has coached up Mike Vick and most recently Nick Foles who ran the "Air Raid" system in college. Give Geno a season to develop under MM and we might have something.
     
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    Yeah, Geno Smith certainly does not sound like an idiot. I feel as though I wouldn't cringe when he is at press conferences.
     
  11. TonyMaC

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    seems to range from disappointing to at or just above being mediocre.

    not enough results to suggest the mold can't be broken though. nothings inherent. Geno might still be a good one, we just have to wait and see.
     
  12. Win4ever

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    Wait a minute. The Air Raid is essentially a spread system that relies on heavy passing, sparse RB, quick throws to multiple weapons? Isn't this what the Pats essentially run? Not like they are running the ball down anyone's throat.

    What college teams even run a normal pro pass game anymore? Alabama and who? And don't tell me Alabama wins, because they win on having NFL caliber OL, RB, and defense. Florida runs a spread. Oregon runs a spread. Ohio State now runs a spread. A & M runs a spread. Louisville runs a lot of spread. Clemson runs a spread.

    Where is the drove of conventional offenses killing it in the NCAA? Everyone praises USC for running a conventional offense, yet we've seen how that turned out. Luck could've played in any type of offense. RGIII ran a spread offense, and so did Cam Newton.

    The Air Raid WAS a gimmick. I don't think it's the case any longer. It's just a modified version of the spread offense, something that is widely getting adopted in the NCAA? And some of the more successful offense in the NFL are adopting it? We know the Pats run a spread, Manning runs a spread, Brees does, the Cowboys do, Philly did and will do so as well. The league is becoming more and more pass happy and the spread offense plays right into it.

    If anything, this is a move in the right direction. I WANT to run more spread. Enough of holding onto tradition and being late to the party. Put in a spread offense and tell Rex to have a defense. I don't care if people think it's a gimmick, as long as we can score. I want some excitement on offense than hoping for a 3 yard run on first and second down every time.

    Brandon Weeden had a better rating than Mark Sanchez in his rookie year, with a much worse surrounding cast. Their best WR was basically a supplemental draft pick. Hell, Tim Couch, surrounded by an expansion team has a better career rating than Sanchez.

    Look, I don't love the pick. I doubt Geno Smith is going to be the savior, but there were no saviors left. Wasn't like we jumped over Andrew Luck to get to this guy. I say instead of Geno adjusting to the "pro-style", why not mix it up and meet in the middle? WCO already incorporates a lot of short throws and screens, which is similar to the Air Raid anyway. I don't want to make a pick with a QB, just because they ran a pro system, because I think the water between pro and spread is murky at this point.

    We also have weirdly enough a decent set of WRs that actually fit the mold. Not perfect, but still fits. We have the slant quick throw first read in Holmes, since that's pretty much all he seems to do. We have a slot guy in Kerley with some speed. And we have a deep threat. And now, a good RB group as well if they stay healthy. Is there depth? No. Would like another WR and definitely another TE, but our team is far from perfect. I'd atleast like to try and get a spread system in place right now and try to figure things out, because chances are, the next great QB prospect is also coming from a spread system in college, be it Bridgewater, Manzeil, Murray or Boyd.

    I'll support him as a Jets fan until he proves that he sucks. Not going to hate him based on random opinions. If he sucks like Sanchez, then by all means, you can start the bonfire and I'll grab the gasoline and pitchforks.
     
  13. Win4ever

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    Also, there is difference between talented players thriving in a spread, and the spread helping to mask terrible QBs.

    As a Michigan gan, Denard Robinson is Exhibition A. He ran a spread and had success, but just watching him, you knew there was no way he was going to be even considered as a QB. I used to hold my breath every time he threw the ball. But the open system and his ability to run created throwing lanes that normally would not be there. Geno, while having the ability to run, didn't do so anywhere nearly as effectively and thus didn't benefit as much from having teams play up to support the run option as much.

    Pat White was another one, that ran the spread, but was really just running the read option. He had 780 pass attempts in his career at WVU, Geno had 518 just last year.
     
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    Using that air raid article as evidence against geno is counter to your argument. did you read the whole thing? Its mostly making the case to root for geno to succeed. the author even states in the comment section that he's pro air raid and wants to see it in the nfl more.

    That list is such a small sample, none of those guys have yet become stars in the NFL, that just means geno could be the first, that's it.

    Spread style offence has found success in the NFL now more than ever before and that's what this team is taking a shot at emulating with geno.

    Thanks for that article though, there's some gems in the comments section, like this:

    ding ding

    Haha that would be so gangster
     
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    Geno will wear # ?

    Obviously not 12.

    My guess is 2.
     
  16. Axel3419

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    6 would make me happy.
     
  17. JetsFanDoc

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    I would guess 9

    No real reason, just a guess
     
  18. Burnz

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    12
    /filler
     
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    Screw it....where's Bubby Brister when you need him?


    At least the Knicks beat the Cel-ticks 2-nite & lead the series 3-0.
     

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