NY Post: With Revis hell over, Ryan now in purgatory with Jets

he didnt miss him last year. and didnt have him in baltimore.rex will always put out above average defenses.if coples and wilk stay on the same trajectory they showed last year the d will be good again next year.

 

Bill is a great coach, but without Brady he would have been in the same boat.
Put Brady on the Jets during RR tenure and NE would have been a distant second on the division, period end of story.

 

Blind loyalty? How exactly are we giving him a team to win with this year? If we were going to fire him, before rebuilding was the time. Now that we kept him, it would just be dumb to fire him if the team struggles. If he goes crazy and does stupid stuff sure, but if the team loses and we were expecting to lose why should we fire him? It was either before this season/offseason started or now after the rebuilding. Firing someone in the middle is dumb in my opinion.

Yeah, I think Rex can adjust. He's always had different pieces and managed to work. People forget, but we had Kris Jenkins in 09 and 10 and lost him early in the season both years, and the defense plugged on. The only time the defense looked lost was both games after Jimmy Leonhard got hurt.

 

Put Brady on the Jets in 2009 and 2010 and I have no doubt that the Jets are back-to-back Super Bowl champs.

 

I had my F&TQ on Chad also, although it was pinging me every time he got hit instead of every time he dropped back to pass.

What the Jets need next year, and they need it in a big way, is a QB that you trust not to do the wrong thing when he drops back to throw the ball.

Inside of that they really need to have somebody on the roster that *might* be the guy that takes them to the Super Bowl whenever they finally get there.

There is no such animal as an NFL team that can go into a season without having a plausible NFL QB on the roster. Garrard is going to be ok for the year until the minute that he is not okay, which was still in training camp for the Fins last year. He obviously is not going to be the guy to take the Jets to a Super Bowl unless 1000-1 lightning shows up for us.

The Jets need to have somebody behind Garrard that the fan base can look to when things get dark this year and squint a little bit and see some salvation in the latter half of the season or going into next year.

Waiting for 2014 is just waiting for 2014. There were a lot of teams needing QB's in 2012 that had to just sit there and watch Luck and RGIII come off the board in front of them. One team paid an absurd amount of value to move up for the second guy on their board.

Those are the two scenarios the 2014 Jets are likely looking at if they treat 2013 like it is a "QB optional" year.

 

Bradway, what exactly do you predict for the Jets next year? Are you a SOJF or a Sunshiner?

 

You can't predict much before the draft and training camp. I think the Jets are going to be in the same range next year that they were last year with a bit of upside if they actually have a competent QB.

The slow feet on defense have been mostly moved out. The play makers will have to be better than the guys last year given that the Jets had no play makers at all beyond Kerley.

Anybody who thinks the Jets are going to be on a Clowney, Bridgewater type pick next year is probably off. There is nothing in Rex Ryan's career that suggests he is going to wind up leading a last place team. The Jets are going to win 5 or 6 games if the offense tries to lose games as it seemed they were for much of last year.

 

I agree. If Garrard starts, I see no reason why we can't win up to 8-9 games.

I just hope that Rex (aka Woody) doesn't start Sanchez solely due to financial reasons. At this point, Sanchez should be considered a sunk cost and benched, regardless of that absurd contract.

Another question, Bradway: Did you see the Jets finishing as poorly as they did last season, or were your predictions more optimistic going in? If so, why?

 

I thought the Jets were winning 7 to 9 games last year. Then Revis and Holmes got hurt and Mark Sanchez had a much worse year than it looked like he was capable of having based on 2010 and 2011.

The reason I was not optimistic at all on the Jets chances to contend last year was because the Wayne Hunter option pick up in February indicated that the Jets weren't going to fix the worst most glaring problem from 2011, instead they were going to double down on it.

Then the Stephen Hill trade up showed me that the Jets were in the same operating mode that had led to the depth becoming a big issue. It showed me the Jets were still in draft the best athlete not the best player mode.

 

It's not blind loyalty. Above .500 record (38-32) in 4 yrs with the worst statistical QB in the NFL. Has always had a top 10 defense too without a great pass rush.

Does he have his faults? Without question. But I'd take him in a heartbeat over firing him and trying some(one) new/retread coach.

 

Good points. Let's see what this crucial draft yields.

We have a tougher schedule than last year, especially in the early going. I could see our D taking a slight step back due to all the new pieces. The Rex factor will prevent that slide from being too steep though, and they'll pull it together by the end.

the O and ST almost has to get better by default. How much so will probably determine if we win 5 games or 8/9.
2013 Draft picks and QB play are really the key to whether we improve this year IMO.

 

And injuries. I like the low-cost signings Idzik has made in terms of upside but they have a lot of downside too. We could wind up with another 0-3 at the end of the season due to the accumulation of injuries by that point.

 

the Jets played some of the worst qb's in the league last year, and were 26th against the run. they lost ten of the fourteen games Revis was out. How can people say they did not miss him?

 

They were 26th against the run because our defense was tired in no small part due to special team blunders and the wonder of a 3 and out offense. A mildly competent offense would put that average to around 15 or so.

 

Fear and Trembling quotient.....haha that is great stuff, and something we Jet fans know all too well with our QB's.

I've personally never had that feeling more than with Sanchez dropping back on 3rd downs. The odds of bad things happening (incompletion, completion 1yd short of FD, sack, fumble, fumble 6, INT, Pick 6), were just way greater than a simple first down. And when the bad things happened, they often did so in gloriously unique fashion.

I had it with Kenny O also, but more so around how gruesomely he'd be sacked. guy was a total statue with a terrible line at the end. bad combo, and def raised my (and probably Kenny's) F&TQ.

 

Very true. Injuries are always a key factor, especially when the depth will be as light as the Jets will be.

 

The Jets were 26th against the run because our NT's weren't as solid last year as they have been recently and because our LB's were slow. All of those problems have been dealt with to at least a degree so far.

 

Yeah, and Willie Colon has been hurt a lot and Antonio Garay was hurt last year and both of them are getting to the age where hurt becomes more likely.

There are some real questions for the Jets this year on durability. This is one of the reason I'm not so fond of the idea of Chris Ivory. He's another guy that has been hurt a lot.

Last year in training camp the WR's were just like injury hell for the Jets and at least a part of that was Chaz Schilens, a perpetually injured WR, being one of the pickups in the off-season.

The NFL is a grinding game. People who tend to get hurt aren't particularly good risks.

 

Cornerbacks were the sure-fire plugging cog in running game since when?