Post Revis Trade/4-3 Draft

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  1. DarrelleRevis.Human?

    DarrelleRevis.Human? Well-Known Member

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    The funny thing about drafting Denard is he would
    be the best "QB" on our roster!

    But no, seriously, I see Denard as WR not a RB.

    He would also be a luxury project pick and not
    right for us right now. Though I do like him as a
    player, wish him the best and think he's a great
    athlete.
     
  2. Cmart24

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    If the Jets draft Robert Woods I'm going to throw up. Marqise Goodwin is a guy to keep an eye on. He's raw but has a ton of talent.
     
  3. JETS1116

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    why? i've heard robert woods is a great route runner who can contribute right away on the next level.
     
  4. Cmart24

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    He can't separate from defenders and has trouble getting off the line from good press corners. I shouldn't say I'll throw up, he has a place in the NFL because of his hands and route running. I just think there are better WRs available.
     
  5. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Ouch!

    Here's a great article that breaks down why his best NFL position at least to start is at RB:

    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...nfl-projection

    If you think about it though he's had only a handful of starts at RB, he's probably had more collegiate carries for more yards than most of the RBs that would be available in the mid rounds.

    I don't see him as a project as he should be able to provide immediate contributions as a 3rd down back, kick returner, punt returner and wildcat QB. Remember in my mock we trade McKnight, who coincidentally was also a 4th round pick.
     
  6. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Stephen Hill says hi!
     
  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    If you have a big time #1 WR, Woods would be a perfect compliment because of his great route running. Without that he will struggle.
     
  8. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Vacarro is who I would target at 13 if none of the pass rushers were available. Woods, Cooper and Ertz are all solid. I like Hughes but I have a feeling we will be shying away from players with any off the field issues in the history. 2 QBs seems a bit much.
     
  9. Cmart24

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    A lot of Jets fans are giving up on Hill way too early. Everyone knew he was raw as hell when he was drafted and he got hurt in his first year. It took Demaryius Thomas a while to figure it out.
     
  10. legler82

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    Just in case this was directed to me, please be advised that "Stephen Hill says hi" <> "giving up on Hill". Just saying that "He's raw but has a ton of talent." can also be said about Hill who is already on the roster. Not sure a 6-10 team should be carrying WRs that are raw with a ton of talent.
     
  11. Cmart24

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    Not directed at you, just saying a lot of fans are already calling him a bust. There's nothing wrong with drafting projects though.
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I don't understand why people think that a running QB who was banged up fairly often in college is going to be able to make the transition to RB in the NFL. I think Denard Robinson is going to be a whirlpool warrior at best if moved to RB and may well not be able to stand up to the hits at all.

    I don't know what position I'd project him at in the NFL but I think a slash type role like Kordell Stewart's role with the Steelers is a much more reasonable projection than RB. The Steelers should have kept Stewart at slash. He was a much better asset for them there than as a full time QB.
     
  13. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    What's the difference between a slash type player and a change of pace/situational/3rd down back which is what I believe he could be early on as he gets stronger? Neither will be carrying the ball a ton. I think he would be able to stand up fine carrying the ball a handful of times per games which would well below the 18 or so carries he has been averaging the past 3 years. With Robinson it would be all about getting him touches which do not have to necessarily mean a lot carries.

    The guy is 5-10 199 which is very comparable to some of the smaller backs in this draft (i.e, Giovanni Benard 5-9 202, Andre Ellington 5-9 199, Kenjon Barner 5-9 196...etc.). And unlike some of these backs he is thicker in the lower body which more ideal for the RB position.

    The other day I read that none of the Michigan RBs broke the 100 yard barrier this past year until Robinson hurt his throwing elbow and was forced to start at RB the last 3 games. In those games he rushed for 98, 122 and 100 averaging 7 yards per attempt. Mind you this was not against scrubs; it was against Iowa, Ohio St and South Carolina respectively.
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    RB is a state of mind position. You can't just make the switch from another position to RB because nobody else gets hit 20 times a game, often by multiple tacklers.

    There's no reason at all to believe that Denard Robinson can make the transition from QB, where he was protected as much as possible, to RB where he will be expected to put his body on the line every time he touches the ball.

    They coach QB's to get down early and avoid the big hits. They coach RB's to fight for every yard.

    It's a world of difference.
     
  15. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Technically, he's already made the transition; his last 3 collegiate starts was at RB. Conversely, outside of the Senior Bowl, he's NEVER lined-up at WR. Also a he will not be the first Robinson to make this switch. Michael Robinson went went from QB to FB, with a stop at RB in between. Talk about putting your body on the line.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccvXghylN0
     

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