Revis trade thread (Update: Revis to Bucs for '13 1st and cond. '14 4th)

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  1. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    I saw a report on rotoworld a few mins ago that said even with the 2 picks, Idzik would want to trade down further.
     
  2. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    Can the random Bills fan who clearly has no Bills forum to post on stop wittering on about his shitty Canadia Lite Franchise and go and find the one bar in Buffalo with electricity
     
  3. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    No, that's not what I'm saying.
     
  4. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe the Bills will take Austin, they have Spiller.

    I don't believe the Jets will use a first rounder on a QB, they have 5.
    Build around, put as many + players on the field around the QB. When he inevitably sucks anyway, look to the '14 offseason.

    Also, we have not seen Idzik draft for the Jets but we know he was part of the decision for Russell Wilson who was 3rd round. Don't rule out a later QB prospect because I'm sure Idzik isn't in love with the "competition" he has there now.
     
  5. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a Jarvis Jones guy, but I would think he'd be there.

    Everyone keeps saying the Jets love Mingo.
     
  6. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    No way you take a guard in top 10 in a draft with guards in rd 2 who have v good upside also.
     
  7. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Then what was the point of your post? You pointed out who the Bills have that is better than what the Jets have at certain positions. That doesn't make any of them "good". Truth is, Spiller and MAYBE Johnson are the only two that would play important roles on contending teams.
     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    This would make the most sense if they can do it.
     
  9. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    Bills won't take Austin.

    Its a QB at 8. Matt Barkley is #1 on their list, Nassib #2, Geno #3.
     
  10. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    let's say for the sake of discussion. we trade the 9 to STL or Minn for both of their firsts.

    Trade 9 to STL:

    13. Jonathan Cooper
    16. Kenny Vacarro
    22. Eifert, Ertz or Hopkins

    Trade 9 to Minn:

    13. Jonathan Cooper
    23. Tank Carradine
    25. Eifert/Ertz, Hopkins, Sylvester Williams or trade down to 30 with ATL

    would both be ideal for me.
     
  11. BakerMaker

    BakerMaker Well-Known Member

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    He should and the 9th pick could be an asset to a team like STL or MIN who has some picks to deal.
     
  12. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    No we don't. With a good pass rusher and a safety there won't be enough time for play to develop for a long pass.
     
  13. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    The Jets had teams that were in the hunt for a SB in 08, 09 and 10. Didn't get over the hump and the team started to decline. Very typical and the reality is the team is rebuilding. The cap was managed very well under Tanny and he essentially lost his job over drafting Sanchez and extending his deal when it was clear the team needed to start the rebuild after 2010.

    I had no problem keeping Revis or trading him. If we get a cornerstone player and a couple of guys who become starters it will be a very solid move toward our rebuild. If we get a bust and a couple of JAGS, Idzik will be gone in a couple of years.

    Teams that get into the mix tend to spend to get over the hump. The Jets did exactly that and now they are rebuilding. Had one of those 3 teams got to a SB the cap issues would have been well worth it.

    You also can't ignore the change in the rookie salary cap which has devalued guys going into their second and third contracts and put more emphasis on drafted players who are much more valuable since they come cheap.
     
  14. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Id be so disappointed if we traded up to get EJ Manuel. The only player I'd want in that scenario would be Nassib.
     
  15. BakerMaker

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    The Bills need a 2nd WR next to Johnson and Nix has been known to make these plays....Marrone also got a first hand view of what Austin brings so I can totally see them taking Austin at 8 OR try and swing a deal to get a team up at 8 to get more picks.
     
  16. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    I think we will already have a trade in the works for our 9 ...Idzik seems like a guy with a clear and focussed approach to the draft , I can see us coming out of this with 10-12 draft picks
     
  17. Noam

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    I saw this tweet by Cimini.

     
  18. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    speaking of the Bills, I don't think they'll take Austin either. this receiver class is really deep. they could go Geno at 8, then possibly take Keenan Allen in the second. or even Stedman Bailey in the 3rd, who is a guy who has played with Geno for most of his life.
     
  19. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    you dont use a top 10 pick on a guard when you have numerous holes to fill...you either take an impact player like a de/olb/wr etc or trade down...a guard should be found by your scouting team in 2 or 3 who plays and starts at an above standard level for 6 years plus.
     
  20. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    I'm telling you, they have two guys at 8:

    1. Matt Barkley
    2. Ryan Nassib
     

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