Kurt's Top 10 prospects

Discussion in 'Draft' started by KurtTheJetsFan, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Special emphasis put on Speed, athleticism & playmaking ability which are the 3 aspects lacking the most from the Jets roster. Some guys might be stronger or more productive in certain roles..but the Jets roster is extremely lacking in athletes which are important in today’s NFL.

    1. Star Lotuleilei- Rarely explosive, violent first step right over the ball. Has fallen slightly on draft boards b/c he's slightly unconventional..but if he goes to the right DC he will be special.
    Jets fit: Might be too similar to both Wilkerson & Coples. May not be thick enough to be a 34 NT. Then again, if the plan is to move to a 4-3 he may make some sense on the interior.

    2. Shariff Floyd- Unblockable 1 on 1 in 1 & 3 gap situations. Question how he’ll adjust to anchoring against stronger NFL linemen..but he’s a legit interior pass rushe r& playmaker.
    Jets fit: Likely not a fit. Won’t be able to handle Rex’s 5 technique looks.He’s more of a penetrator in a 4-3 scheme.

    3. Dion Jordan- Has all the tools to be special w/ the proven ability to set the edge & roam in coverage. Rare in a college prospect
    Jets fit: A perfect fit. Everything Rex looks for in an OLB coimbined w/ everything the jets need in their Lb corps. Will he make it to # 9?

    4. Luke Joeckel- What you see is what you get. Smart,technically sound blind side protector
    Jets fit: Team appears content w/ Brick & Howard but if he somehow fell to their pick he’d wage a strong challenge to Howard(who could be moved inside) & would be the long term replacement to Brick.

    5. Eric Fischer- Solid OT prospect w/ great frame & feet. Is alittle overrated when you look at college competition as well the fact that he is a bit of a leaner.
    Jets fit: See Joeckel

    6. Dee Milliner- Good size, ball skills & change of direction. College factories are scary & can often overrate prospects.
    Jets fit: Rex will like his ability to play man a well as his physical play. That said w/ Revis on the way it it doesn’t make sense to bring in another high priced corner

    7. Lane Johnson- Sky is the limit for this guy. Would better off starting at RT before transitioning to LT. Upside factor. Could end up a better player than both Fischer & Joeckel
    Jets fit: See Fischer/Joeckel

    8. Tayvon Austin- Dynamic,versatile & explosive. Can isolate him all over the football field. Instant offense
    Jets fit: Everything the jets are lacking & have been lacking on offense. Would instantly be best player on Jets offense & would make the team instantly more exciting

    9. Chance Warmack- Drive blocking freak. Put him in the phone booth for 10+ years & always be ahead of the competition
    Jets fit: Rex will love him. Not sure Jets brass or Marty Morningweg will though. Jets usually prefer more athletic linemen and the WCO requires such.

    10. Jonathan Cooper- Strong at the point, extremely fluid to the 2nd level & can pull extremely well. One of the most athletic guard prospects in years.
    Jets fit: Will remind many of Randy Thomas but even better at the point of attack. Jets will like this guy for the WCO
     
  2. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Well done. What are the chances that Fisher falls to the 9th spot?
     
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    Very slim. His stock appears to be real high w/ many teams in front of pick 9 having a clear need at one of their tackle spots
     
  4. laxin

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    Ill be surprised if Lane Johnson isnt taken before the Jets pick... so in other words, Id say there's a .1% chance Fisher falls.
     
  5. S.HOLMES.10

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    Zero chance.
     
  6. Honorable mentions

    11. Kenny Vaccaro: Big strong physical guy who is always around the ball. Not the elite centerfielder every one wants but a ball hawk who could be special
    Jets fit: Rex will love everything about him, However, #9 could be too high especially considering how deep this safety class is.

    12.Corradelle Patterson: Only 1 season of tangible data but that 1 year contains eye-opening stats & plays made within a professional style route tree against legit SEC competition. Big time size,speed & ball skills
    Jets fit:A slightly bigger risk factor than Austin, Patterson will likely need sometime to learn how to use his frame in professional routes. That said, once the ball is in his hand's he can take it the distance. Surely a name the Jets will need to consider going into next week

    13. Barkevious Mingo-Good not great production in the SEC stemming over multiple years. Freakish first step,ability to run the arc & finish. Has the skills to cover but was rarely asked.. he's below average at setting the edge.Long athlete w/ the frame to get stronger.
    Jets fit:Rex will like this guy for his length & closing speed. The question becomes what's a stronger notion? Mingo's ability to finish vs. his current inability to set the edge?

    14. Jarvis Jones: Destructive combination of feet & hand punches. Downhill player who seeks & destroys blocking schemes & offensive backfields. Frame is what you see is what you get & only average arm length. Poor workouts suggest he lacks versatility for defensive roles & will need to go to a program that will build around his strengths & avoid placing him isolated on islands.
    Jets fit: Should Rex come out & state that he sees a defined role for Jones in all 3 downs..i'll bite my tongue. Until then..great downhill rusher who may not be versatile enough for Rex's Multi scheme

    Geno Smith: Can make all throws, has good pocket awareness & has god mobikity when he decides to use it.The questions about R.Smith are all about leadership/intangibles
    Jets Fit: Jets clearly have a need at QB. Does Smith display a hardnose northeast attitude to will a team from NY to the offensive heartland? That's what needs to be decided.
     
  7. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    0. I wouldn't be surprised if Fisher was selected 1 overall.
     
  8. ajax

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    Zero. Most teams picking at the top of any draft just aren't gonna have the depth to pass on stud LT prospect.
     
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    If Star is available at 9 and the Jets draft him, how does that impact Coples? Star and Wilk have some flexibility between the 3-4 and 4-3, but it seems like Coples is best suited for an interior DL in the 4-3 set. Would Coples move to LDE in the 4-3? Just curious what others think.
     
  10. hazmat

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    Kurt,

    Do you see any of the ends/OLB's that you really like? It seems like they all have question marks and taking one at 9 or possibly 13 is very risky.

    Three guys I really like are Tank Carradine, Datone Jones and Syl Williams. Probably some scheme issues for these guys but I'm not sure if Idzik is going to draft for Rex's defense or more of a BPA.
     
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    I see Star as w/o a doubt a guy who would play every down for the Jets, across every front.

    I don't see that with Coples, at least not yet.
    I think Coples role would be similar to this past year, passing downs, 4-3 fronts and the 46, but probably not base 3-4 DE. That will probably be the case whether Star is drafted or not in my opinion.
     
  12. Br4d

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    Mo Wilk - LDE
    Star Lol - NT
    Coples - 3T
    Open - RDE

    It's an insane concept and unlike Rex but imagine the Jets getting the 13 and taking Bjoern Werner on the pick after taking Star Lotulelei on the 9. That's a fine front 4 right there. Maybe a great front 4.
     
  13. Truthfully I haven't put alot of time into the names you mentioned.

    In terms of the #9 pick..other than Jordan..no there isn't anyone I really like. Now pick # 13 is another story. I'd be ok w/ Mingo there b/c I think an athlete is sorely needed for the LB corps & that's exactly what Mingo is. An athlete who can finish.
     
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    That front even with Barnes or McIntire filling that RDE spot on passing downs would be pretty formidible.
     
  15. hazmat

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    Mingo has a such a high ceiling and his speed would instantly change the defense. Still a scary pick since he's no where near a finished product. Lots of safer picks with the guards of interior defensive lineman. Tough spot to be in.
     
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    I agree with on Tavon Austin. I am really coming around to him. If we get a 1st from Tampa, I would absolutely draft Austin at 9 unless someone falls that no one saw coming. I just have this feeling that he would bring a sense of excitement that almost no one else in this draft can equal- he would actually make this offense watchable and add a MUCH needed playmaker that we havent had in YEARS.

    His versatility makes him a threat anywhere on the field. He could step in and be a probowler at multiple positions IMO. I think he's extremely underrated as a RB. Many seem to forget he had a ton of success there. He can line up in the backfield on 3rd downs, run sweeps, screens, misdirections, swing passes... And oh yeah, he's the most dynamic WR in the draft.

    If he had another 2 inches, he might be the #1 pick in the draft. 2 inches should not mean that much. Yeah, he's not going to win many jump balls, but he can be used in so many other ways.

    I just think of all the times Wes Welker absolutely torched us, and then that Tavon Austin has so much more potential... Its kind of scary. If Stephen Hill can develop, him Kerley and Austin would be a much improved WR group.
     
  17. JetsNation06

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    I've been saying Austin repeatedly on this board for over a month now. It doesn't matter how much we invest in the lines, if we don't have any playmakers than this offense will struggle mightily again this year.

    Let's say the Jets get TB's first at 13. I would draft Austin and a pass rusher with the 9 and 13. Then in rounds 2-4 I would go OL, Safety, RB, LB.
     
  18. BacktoQueens

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    I'm beginning to come around to my ideal scenario being Star and Austin (assuming we have a 13, but i'd rather keep Revis than have the 13)

    Star and Austin would be true blue chippers, position flexible, and impact guys. All things i look for with picks this high. Star can play any front on D, Austin can play inside, outside, and special teams. Would really be a solid draft helping all 3 phases of game.

    Of all the players above, i wouldn't go near Mingo or Patterson with picks this high. The rest could and should be considerations.
     

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