Nope, not dreaming. This is real. You seem to be looking at the glass half empty. How about the players that can turn the team around? They will have S. Holmes back along with Edwards and Kerely and S. Hill . Adding a RB to replace Greene, Goodson, to me will help the transistion to the WCO. Their front line of D'Brick, Mangold, Colon, Austin are solid. The D-line will be much improved - as I am counting strongly on sucessful preseason aqusitions in FA and in the draft. They still HAVE Revis along with Cromartie. We know what Rex can do with the D, so I expect them to be well prepared week to week. A 4 game turn-around is not by any mean unobtainable - you make it sound like they have no talent all, which IS BS.
4 games is definitely obtainable. So is 14-2. 16-0 is possible also. The odds on any of the above are low though, very low. The Jets talent is subpar by NFL standards and subpar talent bases do not normally win 10+ games.
I personally think you're right. The Jets have some talent and hopefully good coaching and usually that will end up leading to wins, but this year is going to be tough because it's clearly a transition year with tons of new and youthful starters on the roster and a whole new scheme for the offense. There is going to be a lot of confusion and learning how to play in the NFL on offense and defense that is going to cost us a lot of wins. Even if we hit every single draft pick you can't expect them to produce from day one. The 2014 season is going to be the season we're going to be playoff contenders imo, but only if Rex is not fired. I'm predicting we finish around the same spot we finished this year, +-2 wins. On the subject of trading up I would say hell no. I don't think that Dion Jordan is even the kind of player Rex would trade up for. He's too light weight.
Don't worry guys. Idzik is not an adventurous guy. He will pick 9th and stay put. Don't expect flashy moves from him.
^ That would be the wise move. They are at that position to wait and see what falls. Either take the BPA or trade down - I think they'll have some decent prospects sitting there that other teams will covet. Trading down could happen.
every talking head is saying that the value of this draft is in rounds 2 and 3, not the 1st round and certainly not at the top of the first round.
Say we trade 1 and 3 to move up to #3 then trade our 2nd to move back and get a 2 and 3 we still end up with 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 but we lose value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
Too big of a hypothetical , Jets can't trade up with the hopes to then find a team to trade down with. It's just not that simple.
If the 2006 Jets can make the playoffs, so can the 2013 Jets. I don't expect it, but too many people have completely written off the season. I think we'll be better than we were last season. Might not mean more wins, or maybe it will. If we improve to simply below average to competent quarterback play, get Holmes healthy and have a good draft, this team has a shot. Let Rex coach up the defense, hope Coples takes a step to becoming a star and you never know. Anyone who expects playoffs is out of his mind but it can happen with a couple breaks. It's the NFL after all.
I love drafting athletic linebackers! What was the last firs rounder's name? Love to drop down a few spots and grab Jarvis Jones or just take him at 9. He gets it done in pads.
While I don't agree with the "holy f-ing Christ! Are you outta yo mind?!" reaction to the suggestion, I don't disagree that it would be awesome to get great quality with more picks instead of trading up. But I believe Dion is the real deal from what I've seen. In Rex's hand he could dominate. And just for clarity, I've always wanted to draft him at 9 before the experts started mocking him in the first five picks of the draft instead of the middle to bottom of the first. He was going to be there at 9 until like last week when PFT mocked him going #1 to KC last week. That just screwed everything up for me, and now have been trying to get him back in our draft picture.
I don't have a problem taking Jordan if he drops to us and if the Jets board says he is BPA on the 9. Moving up for a player who is not a QB is almost always a bad idea. No other position has the impact that a QB does on the game and no other position should be prioritized as if adding it to an otherwise average mix is going to do much in the way of competitive advantage. You can make an argument for LT if you already have the QB. You can make an argument for WR if you already have both the QB and the LT (and probably several other receiving options that must be covered.) In other cases moving up to draft a player is just admitting that you are clueless about how to get value out of what should be a very valuable collection of draft picks that you already own. The Jets moved up for D-Rob because their grand plan to move Shaun Ellis to 4-3 DT, a position he was never drafted to play, had failed. They'd have been much better off just drafting 3 players with the 2 1sts and a 4th they gave up to move up. DT isn't going to make or break a team. When the Jets were talking about mini-Sapp and bowling ball with knives what they should have been asking themselves was "where is Derrick Brooks? Where is John Lynch? Where is Ronde Barber?" The only piece of the Bucs formula that they had covered was the Simeon Rice piece with John Abraham. Drafting D-Rob because he looked a bit like Warren Sapp if you squinted hard was a useless exercise because Sapp was only part of the puzzle in the great Bucs defense. Would it have been worthwhile trading up for D-Rob if the Jets had great players all over the defense and just needed a DT? Maybe, but they didn't and so the move was doomed to failure from the start.
