Mike Brown doesn't seem to me to be the kind of guy who is going to pay through the nose for a player. Especially with several young guys coming up on a pay day soon. That said, the AFC North is kind of wide open at the moment. Ravens are going through the post SB hangover with contracts and the Steelers are in cap trouble and nearing a rebuild. If Brown wants to make a move on the lead getting Revis certainly wouldn't hurt the Bengals next year.
And from an outsiders perspective Revis might never heal, thus potentially causing them to waste whatever they trade away for him. There is risk on both sides.
Yeah no way Brown wants the headache of Revis & his agents on a yearly basis. Cleveland however would make some sense especially considering they have new ownership that maybe looking to make a splash
Our defense has been built around a CB for the past 4 years and we've had a top 10 D every single year. It's not necessarily a bad idea; it only begins to hurt the team when they are spending too much of their cap space on DBs.
The teams that have gone all-in on CB's the last few years really haven't done that well overall. You have the Jets, Eagles and Cowboys who have tried the approach and they are 0 for 6 at making the playoffs the last two years doing that. The Browns already have Joe Haden on a big deal. Adding Revis to that at top dollar would just be doing what the teams above have tried to do and failed with. There's an awful lot of 8 - 8 and worse surrounding the talented CB tandems recently.
Just the situation they would be in with the Revis and Haden deals. Look at Joes cap hit the next few years. Base isn't bad but it's all about the cap hit. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/joe-haden/ I don't see Revis going to any AFC Central team. The West, maybe the Chargers, and that makes no sense. South, would Tenesee make a run? I have a feeling it's TB and only TB...
I'm sure you would. I would too. So would the Jets. The Browns, however, would laugh and hang up the phone.
Why do you just flat leave out certain teams to make your argument better? -Outside of the Jets, Seattle has the best corner tandem in the NFL. I'd say they did pretty well last year. -Packers with Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams got themselves a Super Bowl. And have been one of the best teams for the last 5 years. -Atlanta had a lot of money tied up into good players at the position with Dunta Robinson, Asante Samuel, Brent Grimes before he got hurt. I'd say they are pretty good. -Denver with Champ Bailey, they've looked good. interestingly they've been trying to pair him up with someone as well. They don't subscribe to the myth that you cannot win with CBs. -Houston was half the team they are now until they went "all-in" at the Corner position to get Johnathan Joseph The Jets haven't been bad because of the money they've tied up at the position. They've been bad because their QB is terrible, a position they have a lot of money tied up into.
What YOU are ignoring is a simple fact as well too. (What goes around comes around, mind you.) So what is that fact? NONE of the teams you mentioned has TWO CBs at 10+M salary, a la the Jets. And again, NONE with a CB demanding 15M/year. Ok. I can take 1x 10M/yr CB. Two? That's borderline stupidity. Jets already have that in Cro - and he won't bitch about his contract either. How did he do last year by the way?
We can talk about Cromartie. Cromartie is a year older than Revis and up until last year he looked pretty pedestrian and a penalty machine. I'd say there were even people saying he was a disappointment. He's also more one dimensional than Revis. He can cover the big recievers or the burners, but he can't cover the shifty slot guys. Revis can cover either- a matchup nightmare for whatever a team's top target is. Cromartie played great last year. His stock is at its highest. I think this team should keep both and retool offensively with speed, but if I was going to trade one of the corners I'd trade Cromartie first.
Ok, so having two good cheap CB's is the same thing as spending through the nose to get a great CB tandem. Got it. Do us a favor and vet your responses for context before you hit Submit Reply. Packers had Charles Woodson for 4 years before they got to the Super Bowl. Two of those years were 8-8 and 6-10. They signed Tramon Williams to a big frontloaded extension in the uncapped year. They also of course had an All-Pro QB making a lot less than you'd expect in the Super Bowl year. Again, it's context although not as glaring as in the Seattle reply. How much money does Atlanta have tied up in CB's now? Last year Asante Samuel had a $3M cap number. This year it jumps to $5.7M and in the last year of the deal $6M. Oh, yeah, those are Revis numbers all right. Dunta Robinson signed a 6 year extension in 2010. The numbers? $7M signing bonus and salaries of $5M, $5.5M (+$3M option bonus) and $6M and... out the door. The big numbers in the last 3 years did not matter because the Falcons weren't going to pay them anyway. The Falcons signed Grimes, who was very cheap prior to 2012, to a one-year franchise tender of $10.281M. They then let him walk at the end of the season because they didn't want to commit $$$ to CB. Please, child. Ever hear of a guy named Peyton Manning? Go do a post now on all the success the Broncos had with Bailey before Peyton showed up. I'll wait for the paragraph to come. And BTW, "they've been trying to" is a lousy argument to make. The question is where they'd have gotten if they spent all the green on a CB to match up with Bailey instead of getting, well you know. Joseph is the Texans #1 CB and he's making Cromartie money. The other guys are making Kyle Wilson money or lower. Again, context. I'd also argue that Arian Foster and J.J. Watt are a bigger part of the picture than Joseph, but to each his own.
Mike Brown has always been notoriously cheap, so I doubt Cincy is in play here. They have the most cap room of any team, but won't even re-sign Andre Smith because they view him as "too expensive".
They have to get to 89% of cap though or they're in trouble. They're probably going to try to make a move on a tackle in the 1st round. If not they'll get one later on and plug him in. Smith wants $9M a year as a RT and that's not going to happen in today's NFL with a flat cap. The Bengals have apparently gone as high as $6M a year and won't budge off of that. My guess is Smith gets $6.1M somewhere else. Mike Brown has a history of alienating players with his negotiating tactics.
The Jets have been in endless trade talks with the Bucs about dealing Revis. If the trade is finalized, the Jets are expected to receive Tampa Bay’s first-round pick, 13th overall, in the April 25 draft, along with one or two lower round picks. They already own the ninth pick. That would become moot if the Jets trade Revis because any trade is expected to be contingent on Revis agreeing to a new-long term contract. There are indications the Bucs are willing to meet Revis' price of about $15-$16 million per year, which the Jets are not. Revis is entering the final year of his four-year $46 million contract. Before the trade is final, the Bucs are going to want Revis to meet with their medical staff, which means the parameters of the deal must be completed prior to the draft to allow Revis time to get to Tampa. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/revis-appointment-jets-docs-article-1.1314120 Revis meets with Dr.Warren on Monday at 8 AM. Then he goes to Jets camp. The draft is two weeks from today. Draft is two weeks from today.
Myers is the first person anywhere to say a trade would be contingent on a new contract and a medical evaluation..anywhere. Of course it's not a bad idea but it has never been mentioned before now.
are you being serious or sarcastic? Because I was under the impression that it was general knowledge that any trade would be contingent on his medicals checking out and him agreeing to a new contract. Thats why many have said that he essentially has a "no-trade clause" and have wondered if/when the Jets would give Revis's agents & the Bucs permission to speak
I wonder if the Bucs have actually made an offer yet or if all the negotiating has been through the media? The comments three weeks ago by Mark Dominik ("I don't know if he really is, honestly" when asked if Revis was on the market) suggested that the two sides had not actually talked yet. I wonder if it's gotten past that point?
If the Bucs are trading #13 plus another pick or two and then giving Revis $15M-$16M,they should get Revis checked out. Cimini was on ESPN a few days ago. A #1 this year with a late pick this year plus another conditional pick next season.
