As always it depends on who is available, not to mention who we pick with the 9th pick. I'm hoping we don't go Geno Smith but if we do picking up Austin might be a good idea. If not then I hope we try to address both sides of the ball with potential impact players. Defense take one of Jones, Ansah or Lotulelei (this assumes Jordan is gone) Offense take one of Warmack, Austin or Patterson (this assumes the big name OTs are gone) Really we have so many holes so we should just go BPA, regardless of who we pick in the 9 spot so I won't be upset if they go that route at all but I think it would be a great opportunity. I'm still holding my breath that we don't pick Smith. I'm really not sold on him and that signals to me that we're definitely not looking for a QB in next year's draft.
Star at nine and jones at thirteen and we have a number one defense again. Spend the rest of the draft on offensive playmakers.
No way. I'm so against trading up in this draft with how many holes we have and how much depth we need. If Ansah or Jones is gonna be there at 9 there is no need to trade up and basically waste a needed pick. Jones is productive... OLBs rarely run a straight 40 yard dash anyways...
No need to trade up at all.. Idzik is no way going to go for that. I am not a huge fan on jordan just cause he did well at the combine and can drop into coverage. We wait and see who falls .. Trading with the saints might be a good idea as well since this draft is such a deep one in the middle rounds.
The guy is an outside LB that can get to the oasser....and cover a slot reciever....you think a TE is going to be an issue? He is a little underweight, but his college numbers suffered because they asjed him to do unorthodox things. If you can trade up, by getting a 1 and 3, thats not bad. At 13 Vaccaro will be there. Now youre defense is young ,fast and in place for several years. At 39 you can grab the TE from Stanford... In 3 Barnard may be available, though the Goodson signing makes me think theyre not going RB. You could take a slot corner..like Matthieu..or a guard...( i know many say Marrhieu is a reach for where we pick in the third, but given the way the secondary played last year, and the Pats penchant for throwing inside the hashmarks...playing what we have there now...doesnt work, nor does a pass rush, because they dont ask Buck Frady to hold on to the ball. Those 4 picks contribute from opening day.
Not drop into coverage...the guy can cover slot recievers. Thats almost press coverage by a LB who...after he hits the midget a few times will make him hear stes.
And here's why I say that I don't understand what people see in Dion. I don't see how you can say that he can rush the passer when he had like 4 sacks. And I don't get how you can say that he can cover slot receivers when his numbers don't show it. If we're gonna say that he can cover slots or TEs because he's big and fast then I'd say that that's complete speculation.
I'd take take that ... in fact other than Dion falling to us at 9, i believe that to be the best case scenerio though i wouldn't take the TE at 13. If we get this guy, in less than a year you'll forget all about that all important 3rd round pick you imagine is going to save the orgnization. Also, there certainly are alot of Idzik experts on this forum who have inside info on his drafting philosophy and such. I feel confident you know a hair more than my two year old, but that's my guess. Go get him!
This isn't that far-fetched. Two impact players in the front 7 and a safety either drafted later on or emerging from the existing talent would make the Jets pretty scary on defense. Picture a Jets defense where David Harris is the 5th or 6th best player. That's a pretty silly talent base if there aren't any glaring holes causing problems. The Jets need to fix the offense but give Rex weapons and he absolutely will produce a top defense.
^ imagine how much that defense will cost, though, in just 4 short years. That said, I would love to have both Starr and Jones as long as we can hit on our offensive picks.
That's a very good point and another factor. Everything has to be priced against the cap and over time. The thing the Jets have not been good at over the last decade is building up a stable asset base and managing it well over time.
guys please stop with the no trading up thing if we see a guy we like why not move up to get him if it only cost us a 3rd down if we have 2 1st rounders then I'd love to move up for Jordan and maybe move back for Geno or someone else but we need impact players Dion Jordan is that and more
Trading up is a disastrous idea for a team that has both talent and depth issues. Trading up is a "last piece" concept, not a team building concept.
trading up is always an option as is trading down, staying put and or any other deviation. It is incredably silly to claim to have any claim to understanding as to what is considered appropriate as it is all a crap shoot. Hopefully, the team's scouts have done their job and truly that is the ONLY barometer which can ensure success. so i say trade away like you did for revis and others who were worth it.
Trading up limits picks to spend on players. Is it worth 2 high picks to get 1 good player? For this team with all these holes and most likely rebuilding, probably not. Now there might be other circumstances, but right now, not trading up would be a good rule to follow.
The Jets trade ups since 2001: 2001 - Santana Moss 2003 - DeWayne Robertson 2007 - Darrelle Revis, David Harris 2008 - Dustin Keller 2009 - Mark Sanchez, Shonne Greene 2010 - Joe McKnight, John Conner (traded 7th + Leon Washington to move up) 2012 - Stephen Hill That's not a very persuasive list in arguing that trading up works. If the Jets hadn't hit on Revis it would be a total disaster area. The primary reason that Terry Bradway got demoted from GM and that Mike Tannenbaum got fired is the trade ups. That's the primary organizational dysfunction of the last 12 years. That's the thing that fed all of the free agent acquisitions in which the Jets paid average players and good players going over the hill prime contracts and then had to deal with what happened a couple of years later in each case.
