If they can get a 1st this year plus and get two potential studs in this draft I would be excited. I would not trade Revis and then use one of the picks to draft Milner though. Get Kyle Wilsons replacement later in the draft. Would love to get a pash rushing linebacker (Mingo, Jordan) and an offensive weapon like Tavon Austin. Even getting 13 and trading back to 18-25 and getting an extra second would be very nice. BTW I don't know why I read shit like Profootballtalk comments. Some people are so ignorant. Revis is injury prone? When he tore his ACL on a freak injury and pulled his hamstring after not having an adequate training camp in about 6 years. Thats injury prone? Also, people commenting that Idzik is an idiot for not pulling the trigger on the deal. Clearly Tampa wants him and are caving into demands. Starting with no first, to 2014 first to 2013 first +. People are ignant.
It's interesting how every time the latest offer is publicized a bunch of people jump on the "Jets must take this offer" bandwagon. Then a week or two later the offer gets raised again. Idzik must be doing something right. My guess is the Jets get offered the 13 and much more before the draft.
What Idzik doing right? He's playing poker here and frankly I think he's close to blowing it. The Bucs don't have to make a deal here. They can sit and wait and see how the draft plays out. I personally think they would be better off drafting Xavier Rhodes or Trufant and save themselves the hassle. The Jets should take the first this year and second next year,and get rid of a potential headache. The more this drags out, the more they alienate Revis and there will be no way he resigns at any price.
So ESPN sent out an alert that TB was willing to include this year's first and then retracted it 10 minutes later.
Can only hope where there is smoke there is fire..they were the first to even mention TB as having an interest to begin with.
what publi antics are they referring to? the jets have said nothing about this other than to say they hope his rehab goes well and he is under contract. the silence coming from the jets office is killing people. i love it
The only thing that this says is that TB is worried somebody else will jump in..no other reason to voice their displeasure publiclyIif they actually did and this isn't just another media bullshit piece to keep the story hot).
Sorry guy, people don't buy tickets to see a CB shutdown a WR (some true football fans may). The majority of people pay $ to see game changing plays from the QB, RB, WR, DE, LB, and KR. the sizzle sells the steak...
With the 1st, 3rd and 6th from the Bucs this year they could trade the 9 or 13, drop back a bit in the first and pick up maybe a second in 2014 or even trade one of the 1st's for a 2014 1st and a few more picks.. Better to have the 13th this year and be able to move it around than to not know where they will be picking in 2014.
and what exactly has Revis done this off season? nothing. the circus around this off season is simply based on his contract and the speculation that the Jets do not want to resign him, and thus are better off trading him. Revis is completely absent in that scenario other than being the subject.
Guessing whether or not the Jets have done well getting value for Revis is impossible because we haven't traded him yet. If the Bucs are truly the only option out there, I have no problem waiting them out. It's a game of chicken. On one hand, the Jets have very little leverage because Revis is a free agent at the end of the season. But the Bucs sorely need a cornerback, and Revis is the best in the business. They need him, otherwise that cap space is going to waste, and that team could be a player like Revis away from being a playoff team.
Here's how I see it. The Jets and Bucs have plenty of time to get a deal done before the draft and get Revis to a physical and let the Bucs have access to him for pre-trade negotiations. We're on like the 3rd card right now. In a week we'll be on the 4th card. A few days after that is essentially the deadline for a trade before the 2013 draft. Letting Revis go right now for what the Bucs are offering is like going all-in with only 3 cards worth of information and not sure if you're ahead or not and more importantly not sure if the other guy thinks he's ahead - which is all that matters in that situation. Give it a week to ten days and we'll be in the thick of the pre-draft poker game and at that point the Jets can figure out what makes sense. They still have all of May, June and July to get a deal done if it turns out that the draft thing is not going to work. That of course will be the next hand of poker, not the continuation of this one. If you think teams won't be knocking at the Jets door if Revis looks healthy come August 1st you're probably wrong.
Based on what? What information do you have that the rest of us don't have that suggests he's blowing it. He's apparently doing the opposite of blowing it. He's not caving and standing his ground and recent news suggests the offer just went up.
Great analogy. The Bucs just called the Jets bet and the Jets are about to re-raise. Except in this situation the Jets can reduce their bet unlike poker.
Frankly the Tampa papers are saying a 1st, 3rd and 6th for Revis. If that is true, and the 1st is a 2014 pick then I'd make a counter offer, if it's the 2014 first round pick then this years compensation would need to be a 2nd and 4th round pick. I'd take that deal in a hearbeat.
That may work but it doesn't appear the offer right now and Idzik is right to sit on it for 7-10 days and reassess come draft week. It isn't like there is a magical CB that is going to drop out of the sky onto the Tampa Bay roster before the draft. Despite what Tampa says, that deal will always be on the table until the draft because there is nothing in their equation that will change it. What will change it is how draft boards around the league get finalized and players start coming off the board. That is when other teams start realizing that the player they wanted or could get isn't going to be there. Don't be suprised to see everything drop into place even as late as draft day once the top 10 picks go off the board. By now, the Jets, Tampa and Revis all know what his contract demands are so I doubt the contract is the issue. The difference will be that the final package will likely be higher the closer the Bucs or another interested team gets to draft day. My dark horse contender is still Atlanta coming in at the last minute with two #1s - this year and next year. They are likely to pick low next year and they aren't going to get a player of Revis' quality at either two picks. They are loaded up for a run and also need a CB to complete that team.
You know, this is the most excited I've been about football for a long time. Idzik is playing cat & mouse like a fucking poker pro, there is a shadow of another team in the background and the offer keeps going up. And the icing on this cake is complete silence from Jets. Not a word, no anonymous sources. You can almost see media experts pulling out their hair. LOVE IT!!!
