Getting hit with 9M in '14 and watching Revis leave, would sting immensely. If he's traded or extended, you at least get something for it. Eating the bigger portion of the cap hit in a "lost" '13 would sit way better than the full 9M in '14, a season I hope seeing us be back on track after this Tannenbum clusterfuck deluxe.
is that a common occurrence, at least at that high a hit, or is that another one of Tanny's dopey arrangements?
Having dead money linger after a player is cut is common. However, the numbers are nearly always MUCH smaller. I'm assuming Tanny believed he would negotiate a new deal with Revis anyway & find a way to massage it via manipulation of contract terms on the next Revis/Jets deal. http://overthecap.com/podcast-qbs-cowboys-raiders-jets-cap-management-and-more/ <-- really nice podcast on different approaches teams take towards the salary cap. Talks a lot about the Cowboys initially but then he talks about other teams/concepts. One of the innovative things he brings up with the Niners is how they treat cap space. Most teams will try to maximize their cap space so they can carry it over into next season. However, when the Niners have cap space they will convince players to restructure & get more money for that particular season. Niners minimize much cap space they can carry over to next season. However, they gain the flexibility trade/cut these players in the future & not deal with huge amounts of left over dead money (from those big signing bonuses).
I'm pretty sure we're keeping our cap space available (around 12 mill) to do something regarding either Revis or Sanchez... we'll see...
This was also written a year ago when he had a different bargaining position - he was not injured and the Jets were viewed as contenders - neither is the case right now.
The phrase you are missing, is "under the new CBA" The 8 digit salaries were negotited prior to the new CBA.
This is not true. Finnegan and Carr both got $10M a year deals last year. On the Revis cap hit when he is cut issue: In almost all situations a cap hit of that size would be an inducement to keep the player for another year at least. The thing that makes the Revis situation unusual is that the Jets do not have that option. Tannenbaum gamed the system by writing Revis contract in a way that it spoofed a 7 year deal when it was in fact a 4 year deal. That's why the cap hit is going to land on the cap all at once. It was essentially cheating against the salary cap in 2010 in order to overload that year and the price will come due in 2014.
And where does it say in the article that Revis wants to hold out? So because he doesn't answer the question, it means he does?? :lol: You guys love to stretch the truth and grasp at straws. "I just don’t know. I'm not saying I am going to hold out; I'm not saying I'm not going to hold out," That's the Revis quote. Your translation of that quote is "Revis wants to hold out". :lol: Revis knew as well as anybody that holding out wasn't an option. It never was, so if you're saying Revis wanted to hold out, you need to be inside Revis's head, and chances are you are not.
Now youre talking outliers. Like the moronic Matt Flynn deal, the Seahawks did. Revis has NO LANDING SPOT. No Market. And, Revis as a June 1 player counts 5 this year and 9 next, both are manageable.
I've never publicly denied wanting to take over the white house by force, that doesn't mean I'm planning to. If the media asked me that I'd laugh in their face and tell them I don't know. If he held out the Jets would have got to extend him 3 years for cheap. Holding out last year was NEVER an option. He was fucking with the media. It was his way of saying, "shut the fuck up. I don't want to answer your idiotic question". Just last year he was quoted as saying that he was happy with his contract and that the rumors about him being unhappy were false. Straight from the horses mouth. You won't find ANY quotes from Revis since after the 2010 season that say anything close to the speculation of wanting 16million + or wanting to be the highest paid player on D, or being unhappy and wanting to hold out. I see no reason whatsoever to assume he's unhappy, all claims based on that are speculative at best. He made a crap load of money over the last few years. He's not unhappy. He might be disappointed in the injury and team record last year, but unhappy? Perhaps with him being shopped for trade offers, but the contract was a good one.
ESPN Article: Jets, Darrelle Revis past point of no return Sometimes relationships reach a point where there is no going back. The partnership is too fractured. Too much baggage and too many ill feelings make things unworkable. The New York Jets have reached that stage with four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Darrelle Revis. Under no circumstances should Revis be in a Jets uniform in Week 1. Both sides are past the point of no return in their strained relationship. The Jets began the offseason by keeping Revis in the dark. Then, they said they weren't actively shopping Revis but were willing to listen to offers for all players. This approach to trading Revis upset their best player and pushed him farther down the Gang Green ledge. "This hit home," Revis recently said in a video interview with Seattle Seahawks fullback Michael Robinson. "This definitely hit home, especially being one of the best players out there and come to find out you’re getting shopped. It really hits home. But my main focus is it really doesn’t matter where I be at, I know what I can do. I’m confident in what I do. . . . whether it be there with the New York Jets or if it be with another team, I have to do what I have to do and play ball.” Revis certainly is not without blame. Both sides contributed over the years to this impending split. Revis has been all business with the Jets from the day he was drafted in the first round in 2007. He's had three contract squabbles in that span -- once as a rookie, and also in 2010 and 2012. Twice the Jets reached a resolution with Revis. But last summer, perhaps tired of this trend, they held firm and failed to renegotiate with Revis. Each instance had to cause some level of strain on their business relationship. It's apparently at a point now where Jets owner Woody Johnson has little interest in going through another tough negotiation when Revis becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2014. Revis, if healthy, could command an average salary of $12 million to $15 million per year with his next deal. The Jets would be hard-pressed to pay that kind of money to one player, and would be better off getting an attractive package of draft picks in a trade to rebuild the roster under first-year general manager John Idzik. Revis is the only strong bargaining chip New York currently has in the trade market. Last season was an eye-opener for the Jets. Revis went down in Week 3 against the Miami Dolphins with a season-ending knee injury. The defense was expected to fall apart. Coach Rex Ryan had built his entire scheme around Revis’ ability to shut down half of the field each week. However, Ryan proved again that he is a very good defensive mind by keeping the Jets strong on that side of the football. Ryan masterfully adjusted his scheme without Revis, and the Jets finished eighth in total defense in 2012. Most notably, they also were second against the pass without Revis, allowing just 189.9 yards per game. They allowed 201 passing yards per game in 2011, with Revis playing a full season. That is when it clicked for the Jets that no player is irreplaceable, even Revis. Life without "Revis Island" on defense wasn't so bad. Antonio Cromartie had another Pro Bowl season, and former 2008 first-round pick Kyle Wilson was ready to step into the starting lineup. The Jets got plenty of practice playing without Revis, and proved they still can be a top-10 defense. Perhaps the biggest impact in trading Revis would be on Ryan. The embattled Jets coach is entering his fifth season and a must-win year. The Jets have missed the playoffs for two straight seasons, and he probably has to end that streak this year to keep his job. Trading the team's best player would make it more difficult on Ryan. However, other than Ryan's job security, there is no reason for this Revis-Jets marriage to continue. There are too many holes on this team for New York to be a contender. If he stayed, Revis simply would be wasting another year of his career with a Jets team headed nowhere, and he would be unhappy in the process. It’s going to be a long and difficult rebuilding process for the Jets. But that process will move faster if the Jets stop holding on to the past and step forward without Revis. http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/57152/jets-darrelle-revis-past-point-of-no-return
This is such a silly argument. Have you previously taken over the white house by force twice? Did you previously say you'd take over the white house by force for a 3rd time two years later after making $16 million per over the first 2 years of the deal you JUST signed if you though you played at a level that you thought deserved more money? Now that I think of it, are you currently running the white house?
I'm glad I am not the only one who has noticed. Walker would get about 5 visits a week if he ran a blog rather than writing for ESPN. He is that bad. There are people who make posts on this forum who are more informative and enlightening than this ESPN "writer"
Do we have proof he even had an injury or did he just fake it because he was not getting paid what he thought he was worth. He has done it before.