If we aren't in a better position to draft a QB next year, then there wont be a reason to draft one. If the Jets finish better than 6-10 it means that Sanchez or Garrard got the job done. Or is this just more of the hate Sanchez mantra? For those that crave Smith, read about the man. I believe that I read he didn't work out at the combine. That he hasn't been upgrading his skills with the many programs out there. He hasn't been seen in the WVa gym. The WVA fans and players call him a prividged follower and as far from a leader as possible. Those are wonderful stats, too bad most of them came from his Soph and Jr years. In the last third of WVa season, Smith disappeared. Saving himself for the Pro's? Too bad moost of the quality stats came against much lesser opponants (except Clemson in the 11 Orange Bowl in a game that was obviously rigged). I know the hatred for Sanchez runs deep and just because he lacks all of Sanchez's quality skills (Team leader, Works hard in off season, Respected by his teammates), doesn't mean he will perform any better than Mark. Those that have fallen in love with Smith have probably only seen his Sports Center highlights and read stat sheets. From what I've seen and read, Geno SMith would be a hell of a lot worse than Gholston was. Who knows, he may prove me wrong...but I doubt it. BTW I have no use for a smurf either. If you insist on a WR late 1 or early 2, then the answer is DeAndre Nuk Hopkins. He's a football magnet with speed.
What do you see that's so bad about Geno? I don't watch much college football, but his numbers are pretty damn impressive. And I know Tavon wasn't always considered a top 15 pick, but he was always a late first early second guy. And I wouldn't call him no named, a highlight video of his on YouTube uploaded a month ago has 300k+ views, one from 10 months ago has 700K+ views and one from his High School highlights has almost 1 million views. Obviously it doesn't say much about him on the field, but to say that he is no named is a little too much. And really Tyler Bray? Yeah he has the arm, but that's it. Hid footwork is terrible. He crosses his feet and throws across his body all the time. Plus he steps into the pocket holding the ball with two fingers.
I want Tavon Austin regardless. I do not want Geno Smith. If we could trade down from 13 for a team to pick up a sliding Smith or Jones(assuming we trade Revis) to the mid twenties and pick up an extra second/third, I'd be very happy with a draft of: 1: Dion Jordan Late 1: Tavon Austin 2: Gio Bernard 2/3: Zach Ertz 3: Brennan Williams 4: Phillip Thomas 5: Lonnie Pryor 6: Best Kicker Available 7: Michael Mauti Upgrades literally every position (QB excluded) on the offense. Gives us a top-2 WR, RB, and TE in this class. Also gets us the top 3-4 OLB in the draft. Upgrades FS position which we've lacked since trading Rhodes. Also upgrades OT (Williams is a 1st/2nd round talent falling due to injuries, he'll be an insane starter), allows Howard to start inside if Ducasse/Colon either struggle or become injured. Ertz would replace Keller nicely.
Correct: Two tried and proven quality QB's definately will be in next years draft: Murray (UGA) and Boyd (Clemson). Another very good one, McCarron (Alabama) will also be in the draft. I know Manziel is the hot name and won the Heisman, but he was a reshirt sophmore with three years of eligibility and very well may not opt to come out next year. A lot of love for Teddy Bridgewater based on his poor level of competition and one good bowl game. But like Johnny M, may choose to return and prove the bowl wasn't a fluke against good competition. I have to wonder why a prospect as highly regarded as TB was coming out of HS with SEC and ACC offers chose to play for Louisville. Odds are all five will be draftable and all should be an upgrade over Sanchez. But face facts, Murray, Boyd and McCarron have all proven themselves with 13 being at least their third year as a starter.
Would very much prefer: 1: Jones Jordan is my backup and Ansah my third choice. Late 1: Hopkins 2: Elam w/Warford as backup choice 2/3: Vance McDonald w/Swearinger or Rambo as backup if no Elam 3: Andre Ellington I agree with the Kicker late. My choice would be Brad Wing. I know he was nailed for PED, but the SOB can punt 60 yards with either foot.
Only by a handful on this board. Look at the quality programs he played against this year and tell me how anybody could rank him #1: Kentucky, Missouri St, UNC, FIU, Southern Miss, Pitt, USF, Cinci, Temple, Syr, Conn, Rutgers. There isn't a top quality defense in the lot. Cinci and Rutgers had decent years, but like Louisville, their toughest games were each other.
I agree, more than likely you won't be playing Geno Smith until after the bye or when you are eliminated from playoff contention. 2nd you aren't filling any holes such as S, OLB, WR, RB and offensive line. Instead you are wasting it on Austin (slot WR - won't play on the outside IMO) and Geno Smith (whom won't play) - so where does the production come from in the first round? Garbage roster for sure we will have a high draft pick in 2014. Geno Smith, not sold on him.
And when he got a chance to play against a top defense, he tore it apart. If he played against this weaker schedule and then shit the bed against a top team, there's room for concern. The Florida game showed us what we were all looking for- he has the talent/mental capabilities to be a top QB at the next level.
Wouldn't be totally opposed to this. I really like Ellington (just not as much as Bernard). I like Elam too- just not enough to pass on Bernard. Bernard has it all, IMO. Good receiver out of the backfield, good pass blocker, and obviously can run the ball. Not a huge fan of McDonald. We have enough TE projects on the roster as is, and I think Rambo is extremely overrated. I don't dislike Hopkins, but I just have a massive hard-on for Austin. Jordan/Jones is preference. I think Jordan is more versatile, and can play a wide variety of positions in case Rex is fired and we switch D-formations. Jones is a LOT better suited for a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 OLB or DE.
Sorry, I don't believe there is a legit college football game after the third week in November. I believe that just about every rivalry week game and bowl games are fixed. Two games in particular the refs did a piss poor job of disguising it: 2011 Orange Bowl. Clemson was leading and Ellington carries the ball into the end zone. He's flat on his back and the ball is stripped and returned. The refs ruled it TD WVA. The scoreboard clearly showed Ellington flat when the defender reached for the ball. That was the turning point, but also one of 12 examples the replay screen froze on proof of wrong calls and why ESPN called it the worst officiated game iin the history of college football. This game made Testeverde's Phantom TD against Detroit look legit. This years Clemson/SC game. Clemson is favored at home. A win and they're in the Sugar Bowl. Prior to the game, a representative from the Chik Fil A Bowl was introduced. No one representing the Sugar Bowl was even in attendance. The Gamecocks had no answer for Ellington/McDowell, but Clemson quit running the ball midway thru the second quarter with a lead. The Gamecocks on just about every offensive play had 13 men on the field with no huddles. Just before the play is lined up, two players would run off the field...Never called. Spurrier was between the stripes on multiple plays in the fourth quarter getting outside the hash (still on the field) with not only no ejection (see college rules), but no penalty. Finally, Clemson down by 8 late in the fourth quarter and Dabo Swinney elects to punt and quit the game. He's never done that before in his carreer. No sir, Rivalry weekend and Bowl games have pre determined winners. BTW UGA with their average O proved that UF had an over hyped defense that could be exploited.
Everyones entitled to an opinion and you've more than earned mine. I understand where your coming from with Jordan as he is my second choice. I doubt Ryan is an issue as I would bet my house he will be back in 2014 unless there is a total mutiny (wont happen). I like players with more than one college season to base an opinion on. Bernard is physically gifted and was the ACC leading rusher despite missing two games. If he had two such seasons, then I would agree with Bernard over Elam and Ellington. I don't believe McDonald is a project at all and IMO is the third best TE prospect. Not only is he the fastest, but has shown quality hands and a very good blocker. If you said he was a head case, I could understand that. Not sure what the love for Austin is. He is a smurf and plays the same position as Kerly and Holmes should be playing. I think Hopkins is the total package at WR and like him better than Patterson and the rest. Not sure I agree with your assesment of Rambo either. Three year quality starter at UGA. Proof is his consistant track record. As I said, I guess I just like guys that consistantly perform and are not one year wonders.
Oh boy. If the NCAA was fixed, don't you think that ONE athlete out of tens of thousands that play football would come forward? It literally only takes one. In addition, if it was fixed, there is no chance they would've let Michigan lose to SC. Michigan has the biggest fan base in the country.
I completely understand where you're coming from. As far as McDonald goes, he is a bit of a head case, and he lined up in the slot quite often iirc. Didn't play a true TE blocking position. That's mainly why I don't love him in the 2nd. If we came out of the draft with 1. Jones 1. Hopkins 2. Elam 2/3. Ertz 3. Ellington 4. Phillip Thomas (If B. Williams drops this far, him) 5. Lonnie Pryor 6. K/P I'd be thrilled. And those that love Austin don't think he's limited to the slot. He's a Percy Harvin-esque player. If we were still a power-run O, I would agree that he isn't a great fit on the outside. With a WCO we can afford to have a smaller game breaker on the outside especially when we have Hill on the other side. Austin is also NOT a one-year wonder.
in this scenario,i would like to see smith with the 9 and warmack with the 13. i think you get the most bang for your buck,strengthening the ol and getting the qb of the future
First off, the players don't have to know. Coaches call the schemes and they can put players into positions to make plays or be totally out of position to miss. The refs also can change make game changing calls. Since I have never been a part of fixing a game, I imagine it would only take one player (if he even needed to be involved). The player gets a handsome pay check and is promised a draft slot. He could be reminded that if he runs his mouth, he would be in breach of contract. But I don't believe it takes any players having knowledge, just following the coaches calls. Second, it's exactly the fact that Mich has the fan base and so much money was bet on the underdog UM. Yes, a lot of times the money favorites win the game, but frequently its by the spread or just under.
Certain holes we'll be able to fill in the middle of the draft(RB, TE, S, WR and OG) QB and pass rusher should be our top 2 picks Geno Smith and Margus Hunt seem likely
Geno first rounder and Steadman Baily in 3rd? idk if he will last that long though but theres so many good recievers someone will drop
you guys know that sanchez has turned the ball over like 60 times in the past 2 seasons? like jesus, if we draft geno smith and he only turns it over 15 times, this team is infinitely better than last years. you guys think this defense will suck next year, but it won't. laron landry was overrated by fans, he was rated like the 60th best safety in the nfl. bart scott and calvin pace sucked. mike devito helped with the run, but we sucked with him anyways. our defense won't change much from last year. it's apparent that looking at the big picture, mark sanchez really hindered this team. geno smith might not be a bonafide star, but he doesn't need to be. you're all obsessed with drafting the star, but it doesn't work like that. that's why there are so few. also to think we will have a top 3 pick next year is absolutely absurd
