Poll: Should the Jets draft Geno Smith?

Discussion in 'Draft' started by laxin, Mar 30, 2013.

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Should the Jets draft Geno Smith?

Poll closed Jul 8, 2013.
  1. Yes

    36.2%
  2. No

    63.8%
  1. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    it tells you that they're looking to solidify the QB position so they can take BPA in the draft

    the Jets dont have an answer right now

    Oakland can build with Flynn for a couple years they can now try and trade back from 3 to get more picks since they have none

    Buffalo who gives a damn what they do to be honest

    Arizona sees something in Palmer and also have Skelton still there and they have interest in Barkley and Glennon

    Pairing Geno Smith with Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinweg is very, very intriguing. Smith will give Rex the type of QB he wants and he also fits a MM offense to a T.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    This is kind of how I see it. The top 2 picks in 2014 just are not going to be available in trade at all. Both teams on those picks will want Clowney if he's out there but the #1 team may well need a QB and Bridgewater may look like a franchise QB at that point. There will be a lot of tension on those two picks if that's the case.

    I think the odds on the Jets winding up with either Clowney or the top QB in 2014 are really low. So the realistic options in that draft will be the 2nd to 4th QB's available and those guys do not look better than Geno Smith, they look to be same range with a freakshow possibility if Manziel comes out very early as a sophomore.
     
  3. JETS2013

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    LMAO! Yeah, that would pretty much suck!
     
  4. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    I'd prefer the JETS rebuild their plane before finding a pilot........
     
  5. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    If Geno Smith is there, and the Jets think he can be the franchise Qb they take him, if not they don't. Personally if he's there the Jets gotta take him. Without a Qb, a team goes nowhere.
     
  6. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    great analogy, still want Geno
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    As long as you realize that the plane doesn't leave the ground without a pilot and pilots are kind of randomly available to teams, as the Jets history shows.

    #1 pick in '96 and '97 and no pilots available. No 1st in '98 (Curtis Martin), 12 in 2004 (pick after Roethlisberger), 16 in 2012 when great pilots were available.

    I think you keep taking good shots at a pilot whenever you see them until you find one. If you happen to get lucky and have a great pilot available in a year when you have a high pick that's serendipity but counting on it is wishful thinking.

    I think the 2014 and 2015 drafts should play no part at all in the Jets 2013 thinking. Nothing that happens in those years is going to effect 2013 at all and there's a good chance that any scenario the Jets lay out for those years while planning 2013 is utter bullshit.
     
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  8. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    If he's there, I'd be shocked if they didn't take him. However, there is virtually no chance he drops that far. In particular, I don't think there is even the slightest chance that he slips past Buffalo.
     
  9. alleycat9

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    buffalo just signed kolb. that should fulfill their qb needs.
     
  10. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, great analogy, but incomplete. It should be "rebuild their plane WHILE TRAINING a pilot".
     
  11. Attackett

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    You sure you were watching Geno and WVU games? The kid completed 67% of his passes, over 11,000 yds with 98TDs to 21ints.

    In what world is that not great in college. Now he may not translate to the NFL but he was not just good in college he was great in college and has every skill it takes to become a great NFL QB.

    As always and as we've seen with Sanchez it will be as much about how the player is developed as it is the player itself. I hope we are lucky enough to have Geno fall into our laps and then really hope the Jets learned from their mistakes with Sanchez and develop Geno the correct way.

    If they do we got ourselves the franchise QB this team has desperately needed.
     
  12. The 1985er

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    I can see them taking the Seahawks approach. They signed Kolb but then they still might draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round (Nassib)
     
  13. GoldenShowers

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    Do you Geno guys actually watch college football? I mean I get it the kid is the best QB available and for the first half of the season had nice stats and had a nice pro day.

    Die hard college fans will tell you he was ineffective as the season went on:

    - WVU finally joined a real conference, and the legit teams they played owned him
    - WVU is a system team, the same way Nebraska was with Eric crouch, but it's a passing system. There is very little actual mental aspect.
    - This system always gets owned by better DCs

    Let's talk about the air raid system. It was first implemented by Mike Leach at Texas Tech. He worked closely with Dana Holgerson, who took the system to Houston and then WVU. At every school, the following trends were exhibited:

    - they were top 5 in the nation in passing yardage
    - their QBs were Heisman hyped

    Anyone remember Graham Harrell? Same system, same conference, better numbers and performance, and an absolute useless NFL QB. There is a parade of TTU, Houston, and OU (where Leach disciples like Sumlin coached) that put up absurd air raid numbers but who can't actually play.

    The people who doubted Wilson did so bc of the same idiot concepts that bc he was 5'11 and a baseball guy he couldn't be good. If you watched the kid play, and listened to him speak, it was obvious he wasn't only a special talent, but a bright kid.

    Geno Smith is a kid who fizzled against good DCs and legit competition. He is from a system notorious for severely bloating QB numbers. He goes to a school that is basically a special ed college bc he couldn't academically qualify for most programs. And you want THIS as your franchise QB???
     
  14. alleycat9

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    this is my issue... he has andre ware written all over him. i do not think he will even be a decent pro qb. he can make throws but i dont see him handling pressure, either pass rush pressure or decision making pressure. and his idiot college coach did him a disservice by running that douchey offense. although he will get a nice pay day out of it and luckily not ruin a franchise for 5 years like the old rookie structure used to.
     
  15. RuJFan

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    What I would really love to happen is for Smith to fall to 9 and then Jets trading their 9 to Rams for their 2 firsts ++.
     
  16. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    We can't rebuild without a QB. Smith is a legit first round QB talent.
    I'd take him at 9, but don't think he'll be there for those same reasons.
     
  17. GoldenShowers

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    And you can't rebuild with a shit QB.
     
  18. Falco21

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    Legit teams he played owned him?

    Let's look at his game logs:

    Marshall - 88.9% 4 TD 0 INT 323 Yards
    James Madison - 87.2% 5 TD 0 INT 411 Yards
    Maryland - 69.8% 3 TD 0 INT 358 Yards
    Baylor - 88.2% 8 TD 0 INT 656 Yards
    Texas - 71.4% 4 TD 0 INT 268 Yards
    Texas Tech - 53.6% 1 TD 0 INT 278 Yards
    Kansas State - 65.6% 1 TD 2 INT 143 Yards
    TCU - 59.3% 3 TD 1 INT 260 Yards
    Oklahoma State - 66.7% 2 TD 0 INT 364 Yards
    Oklahoma - 57.1% 4 TD 2 INT 320 Yards
    Iowa State - 71% 2 TD 0 INT 236 Yards
    Kansas - 95.8% 3 TD 1 INT 407 Yards

    Syracuse - 67.9% 2 TD 0 INT 201 Yards

    Of all the teams they played, Kansas State, Texas, and Oklahoma were ranked in the top 20 in the final rankings. Let's see what he did against those teams:

    64.7% 9 TD 4 INT 731 Yards

    The guy is just talented. He has all the tools to succeed in the NFL and, like stated above me, it all depends how he is raised under an organization. With MM calling the offense and Idzik now at GM, I feel they can groom him into a franchise QB.
     
  19. blackssmagic

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    So I ask my question again, is Smith at 9 that much better than EJ in the second. As in would you rather have Smith and whoever in the second. Or Jones, Moore, Jordan and then EJ in the second. My feeling is getting a guy with a canon/great arm but that is also mobile vs a statute like Glennon.
     
  20. FJF

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    why would the rams give 2 firsts when they have bradford?
     

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