Star Ledger: Sanchez "More Comfortable" With WCO

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  1. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    im not in any way saying he has done a bad job or that i even disagree with anything he has done. i just dont want to annoint him until he shows his plan and method and eye for talent.
     
  2. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    everyone else seems to be able to manage being on the internet on an ipad... maybe you should go take a class or something.. i am sure that apple would pay for one for you because you are a single handed advertisement against the ipad. ive never seen someone have so many problems with such a simple device.

    and he made bad decisions and threw the ball into coverage that he brought over because his receivers were bad? thats non sensible.
     
  3. mute

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    dude this is nothing new. The team as a whole has been inconsistent yet all eyes are on Sanchez.
     
  4. rico college

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    Because Sancho is a straight bum and should he be playing in the arena league. I am shocked anyone who watched the games last year could ever still defend that guy.
     
  5. laxin

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    In the Seahawks game he was throwing to Keller and Kerley. The double pump fake was to Keller, his favorite and most trusted receiver. In the Titans same he was throwing to Kerley, Cumberland and Edwards (two of which you believe are quality players and we dont have needs at those positions). The triple coverage double pump was to Cumberland, who you support very much.

    His receivers may not be great, but maybe Sanchez hindered their stats? Ever think of that?

    At this point I can not get a grip with what you are saying. You say the Jets best receiver was signed that week, yet when you talk about the Jets needs, WR, TE and RB are not one of them. You sit there and argue that Sanchez had no one to throw to, meanwhile you think Cumberland is an upgrade to Keller, and that we dont need a WR in the draft. Meanwhile Holmes was basically the only "major" piece missing, and he's only a solid #2 WR. Hill could not have been counted on much because of how raw and inexperienced he was.

    I didnt choose the absolute worst game on the schedule. I chose a bad game, yes. But he had plenty of bad games... I couldve chose the 49ers game where he had a 44% completion percentage and 103 yards and led the team to 0 points. Or the Steelers game where he led the team to 10 points, threw for 138 yards and had a 37% completion percentage. Or the Cards game where he threw 3 interceptions in a half and led the team to 0 points. Or the Bills game where he led the team to no touchdowns and 3 field goals, along with giving the other team 7. I chose two very bad games, but he had a very bad game almost half of the time.
     
  6. Swedish Ale

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    +1

    I've been on a merry-go-round with Hobbes before, and although an amusing ride and to punch holes in his "logic", I'm afraid I actually got slightly dumbed down from it.

    Even though it can be hard to refrain from replying to stuff similar to "Mark forcing it into triple coverage is coz we had a new WR in every week" etc, and to try and just ignore it and read on.
     
  7. ArmandJ

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    Honestly, I would say screw the cap and cut Sanchez. Having him on the team leaves the Jets with absolutely zero credibility. One of the first questions people have when they talk with me about the Jets is 'why do you still have Sanchez'? It's ridiculous. He doesn't deserve to be on the team and he doesn't deserve to make 1 dollar much less 8 million.
     
  8. TonyMaC

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    he'd just be making more, wouldn't that piss you off more than him bowing out after 2013 for less?

    and really the zero credibility comes more from a perception than anything else. It'll come from the impulsive dumbasses who only see him as mr.buttfumble, because thats all they know him from even though theres a far more complex story to it than that. Its not a very positive one mind you, but still more than "bwhaaha! circus! foot fetish! biggest laughing stock!" crowd can handle.

    don't listen to these people. their opinions mean nothing, they probably don't even know what the cap situation is over here.

    cooler more logical heads will see that while he obviously hadn't done well and only has a mediocre peak at best, cutting him makes no sense at a stage where doing so hinders your ability to do anything else.

    the people laughing shouldn't be the ones we care about,the jets should never make a decision that hurts them just because it removes an embarrassment that isn't a locker room cancer or such (which 2011 passed, MS isn't)

    Sanchez wasn't very good, by combination of lacking proper development and not being all that great to start with. We have to keep him if only to see of he's salvageable for a season or so, and because the hit just to get him outta dodge hurts our ability to field a proper team and actually try during 2013, and if he sucks they can be rid of him without much to lose. if people can't handle a less hyperbolized truth like that, then f#ck their stupid asses, leave them to watch lowest common denominator center some more.
     
  9. 101GangGreen101

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    You only cut Sanchez under certain circumstances. If the Jets draft a QB in the first round - then it would be wise to move on from Sanchez and start a veteran. As of right now, if the Jets can't get a valuable option in the FA / Draft, then it's in the best interest to let Sanchez compete for the starting position.
     
  10. LongIslandBlitz

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    I happened to watch an episode of hard knocks the other day where Sanchez was walking down the red carpet at some event thinking he was ben affleck, seriously the guy never cared about football he wanted to be a celebrity from day 1. thats all he cared about it was to obvious and it showed on sundays. He wanted to be Tom brady off the field without being tom brady on the field
     
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    Up until the Titans game Sanchez had played OK against weak pass defenses and terribly against strong pass defenses.

    That was the first time he had an awful game against a poor pass D, though he had another in Buffalo at the end of the year.

    I don't know if he was forcing things at that point, but he has a track record of automation when he is given coaching advice, sticking to the letter of that advice till they correct the coaching explicitly. Who knows what issue he was hung up on that week.

    I don't think he has the instincts to succeed anywhere other than in a system that is filled with quality players who all get their jobs done flawlessly.
     
  12. PuMa

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    His decision making is dick... he cant do it ! he doesnt have good QB vision he has a good arm but no vision and below average accuracy is a bad mix.
     
  13. Frenbar

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    Muck is more comfortable with the WCO, but not nearly as comfortable as he will be pulling bong hits this fall with Michael Phelps while they are watching football on TV.
     
  14. jdon

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    Get a cushion for him to sit on when he is on the bench
     
  15. JetsNation06

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    Amazing, Sanchez looked great in some meaningless workouts in March. This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he sucks once the games start in September. More offseason media fodder.
     
  16. Br4d

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    Yeah, I really don't care how he looks before the whistle blows. He's got to be a much better leader on the field and the first part of that is being a much better player on the field.

    I just don't see how that happens. Accuracy is accuracy and Sanchez does not have that. He just isn't capable of of hitting enough throws to win ball games at this point. He's completely reliant on the defense to not let the opponents run the Jets out of the game and then maybe he can lead a late drive in a tight game.

    You can't win like that. You have to be able to blow the other team out now and then or you wind up bogged down at the edge of the wild card chase at best.

    Sanchez looked great in the season opener last year because the Bills CB's suck and they weren't bringing any pressure in the 1st half. When you have no corners and no pass rush you're going to make Sanchez look pretty good.
     
  17. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    does anyone really think that jeff garcia is going to come out and say something negative?

    hey jeff garcia here... mark sanchez has been spending time working with me and you know he really hast gotten any better, his decision making is poor, his accuracy is poor and i really wasnt able to improve it too much... good thing i got paid though. hopefully the next guy will be better at not sucking so i dont look completely useless.

    i mean honestly, do you really expect to say that he cant teach the guy, when that is what he is being paid handsomely for?
     
  18. tank75

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    first time ive heard anyone mention anything about the guy being paid...
     
  19. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.jeffgarciafootball.com/registration/

    he charges kids to tutor them, i highly doubt he is spending time with a multimillionaire football player and not getting paid.

    and even if he wasnt getting paid his job is to market his football camp, and saying mark sanchez is doing great is the smart marketing move.

    didnt garcia work with him last year too? and say he was doing amazing things?
     
  20. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    maybe it was garcia offering him help via the radio last year. i know that garcia and sanchez were a topic at some point last year.
     

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