We don't know what's going to happen with the cap moving forward. The on-going litigation could become very expensive in coming years and depress salaries substantially. There could be new litigation. The cost of benefits is also going through the roof for the NFL and benefits count against the percentage going to the players. I would not count on having the cap rise dramatically over the short term. It may very well spike up but there are also real scenarios in which it stays flat or only rises in a sluggish manner as other variables come into play or worsen.
It doesn't even have to rise with the dead weight already cut and big contracts becoming moveable/cutable next season they Jets will have money to play with.
When you say money to play with, am I right to assume you want Jets to front load Revis contract so his annual salary is lower in the latter half of his contract? Because Jets would be crazy to agree to that kind of contract unless Revis agrees to a no-holdout clause.
I think re-signing him at 12mil is the best scenario and would be a no brainer. 13mil is doable as well. That's fair comp, and i don't think he'll see much more than that from anyone at this point in time. If we can keep him at fair market value, that is worth more to me than just a 1st round pick.
What if his camp disagrees? Should the Jets be willing to carry him for the entire season & wait for reality to him when he's an unrestricted free agent?
His camp can disagree all they want, they aren't seeing that money this year. I don't see the Bucs ponying up 14-15mil, and neither will any other potential trade partner. If he wants to take the chance and play out this season, he might be able to get a little more as a healthy UFA. That's a big risk on his part though. My point is if we trade him, and another team inks him long term to 13mil per, we'd have been better off signing him to that ourselves. We trade only if the return value is really good, or if we cannot come to an agreement for a contract in that range. As of now, we don't know what either of those variables actually are.
The knee injury really messed up Revis strategy for the next contract. He may still get the Big Deal but now he's threading a bunch of needles to get there instead of just bargaining his way out of town this spring. If he was healthy the Jets would have gotten somebody to bite on a good deal. In the unlikely event there was no trade market for him he'd just have had a contract year next year and gotten the career contract that way. The Jets got screwed also but Revis has taken just as big a hit. 29 and on the market next spring means everything has to go perfect for him and life is rarely perfect.
8mil is the ceiling. I love the junior GMs giving a CB 10% of the salary cap. Do they not understand why there is no market for him THIS FUCKING YEAR @ 6M?
I agree, especially the bolded part. I think the Trade Revis crowd here has become noticeably less enthusiastic as they see the apparent value being offered coming down from the too lofty expectation level. The other thing I would add here is the leverage the Jets have to redo his contract for 13 and add the roughly $6 to $7 mil which he would not get if he played 13 at his current contract rate. Add present value analysis, and that is an incentive for him to come to a deal now that too many who see him playing out his current contract do not recognize. Now ftr that does not mean that I am predicting there is no way in hell (heh) that Revis will not play out his contract. But it is real leverage for the Jets, even if not determinative leverage.
Revis isn't going to get big money coming off an injury, even if it's rumored that he might want it. Nothing is confirmed yet about what Revis actually wants. I don't think he's stupid, however. He knows his value is down and his best bet will be to either play his ass off this year and hope to get a big deal next off season, or to take a smaller offer from the Jets sooner rather than later, just in case. Either way its a gamble on both sides.
this may be the only time in this thread that i agree with BB. The contracts this season and the corner market, coupled with the fact that he needs to have a perfect season, means more likely than not he is signing a cheaper deal than before. you can also factor in the whole rookie deal cap as part of this as well. inflates the value of young players in this league.
I agree with your points but I disagree with something I believe you're implying. When Revis hits UFA & everyone offers 12-13 per year (including the Jets) why does he come back? I get this feeling that you believe Revis will come back if all offers from everybody is equal. If offers from everybody line up, I don't think it's a given he comes back.
Well I mean obviously I could be dead wrong, but IMO he isn't going to sign for that unless it's a very short term deal ... 2 year max at that level. If he could be signed for 12/year long term the Jets should have already inked that contract.
they wouldnt ink that this year with the cap situation. they very well may only pull that off for the short term. seeing what happened this year and the writing on the wall tho, i doubt we will see corners get that money ever again. oh, and lets not forget that Al Davis is no longer around to give out retarded deals.
The cap wouldn't be an obstacle in making that deal happen. Money can easily be spread around the length of the contract to make it doable. It might be more of a hindrance to the cap to trade him than to re-sign him.
He's not worth more than 12 per... I think the Jets wouldn't be in the worst position in the world to keep him an dhave him play out his contract. With the Cap space we'll have next year technically we can match any offer he gets.