Its the owner that bothers me, not the GM: Our GM is making the tough, unpopular decisions are on our roster. Other then Devito, who I wanted to bring back but not at 12 million, I have no issues with letting go any of our guys including Mevis. Either I did not want them or what they got from the other team was a ridiculous contract. Even more important, we did not panic and over pay for there replacements which is where Tannenbaum went wrong. He never let a FA leave the building, we just offered more then the player was worth.... Pace is a perfect example. The media is so full of crap, they all know he has a plan to replenish our roster. Serby's article made it seem like our GM has no plan to replace any of these players outside of the draft because we did not panic the first 3 days. The biggest problem I have, and its the owners fault, not the GM, is the head coach. You can not expect Rex to be competitive with this roster so what are your expectations for 2013 in order to bring him back? I wanted to get rid of Rex for this reason, but since you kept him he deserves 2 years and Woody should have said so. The owner has been and continues to be my biggest concern. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/gang_green_purge_points_to_IzDbuy852hZPP7mAnherGK Posted: 4:09 AM, March 14, 2013 Jets Blog headshot Steve Serby The players don’t come but they sure go, and because these are the Jets we are talking about, you have every right to wonder whether Team Woody — owner Woody Johnson, general manger John Idzik and coach Rex Ryan — is asleep at the free agency switch. On a day when Shonn Greene raced to the Titans faster than he ever hit a hole, on a day when Yeremiah Bell signed with the Cardinals, on a day when Dustin Keller was thinking about taking his talents to South Beach and pulling a reverse Jason Taylor, on a day when Brandon Gibson visited but left for Miami, the Jets retained Lex Hilliard. Anthony J. Causi/New York Post Dustin Keller J-E-S-T-S JESTS JESTS JESTS. Johnson and Idzik aren’t merely cleaning house. They’re burning it to the ground! Is the braintrust stranded on Revis Island, with no cell service? What’s the plan? Here’s the plan, as it looks today: Wait until 2014! What else can Idzik possibly be thinking, other than: Wait until 2014, when Mark Sanchez won’t be the elephant in my salary cap room, when I will find myself a new franchise quarterback, when I can fire Ryan and get my own guy in here. What is unfolding before your bloodshot eyes, Jets fans, is the very reason why the owner should have ushered Ryan out the door with Mike Tannenbaum — you cannot function properly when your general manager has one vision and your head coach has another. It is the general manager with the vision for the future who now has the owner’s blessings, and it is Ryan who will be asked to win now with a team that has no chance of winning now. You are a Jets fan and your PSL bill is burning a hole in your pocket and you ought to be able to see that your team will be everybody’s homecoming game in 2013, which means that PSL will stand for Please Stop Losing. Who’s ready for 4-12? If I’m Darrelle Revis, I’m praying for a trade away from football purgatory. If I’m Ryan, I plaster a tattoo of the owner on my other arm and ask him if he would be so kind as to put me out of my upcoming misery now so my reputation and resume is not forever tarnished. The Giants have lost Martellus Bennett and Chris Canty, but they have bolstered their defensive line toughness with Cullen Jenkins and added secondary depth with Aaron Ross. But it isn’t their way to make a big splash in free agency, and besides, Big Blue Nation has grown to trust general manger Jerry Reese. Remember when a rehabbing Steve Smith signed with the Eagles and Reese was subjected to the firing squad? Six months later he was hoisting his second Lombardi Trophy, and now he has a first-round tender on Victor Cruz, who made everyone forget Smith, who has been a shell of his former self. Everyone recognizes that Idzik is Dartmouth-bright, but he is a rookie, which means he doesn’t have Reese’s street cred. Just because you lay in the weeds at the start of free agency doesn’t mean you don’t have a clue. The problem is the Jets are the Jets, meaning they are guilty until proven innocent. It’s not as if Idzik has any pelts on the wall. LaRon Landry and his biceps are headed to the Colts. Anyone seen Brandon Moore? Dustin Keller? Sione Po’uha and Mike DeVito are gone. You can’t keep everybody, we understand that. So the Jets keep Lex Hilliard. On top of the David Garrard signing! The wide receiver position is a veritable land of opportunity. And yet Gibson opted not to sign up to play like a Jet. Remember the good old days when Ryan would pound his chest and roar that every player in the National Football League (not named Peyton Manning) wanted to play for him and his Jets? Wait until 2014. Maybe someone will want to then.
Serbs is an asshole. There is far more veteran FA talent, than there are places for that talent to go. No one is sniffing Brandon Moore or Matt Skauson. Are they coming back, or retiring? Greene is not a WCO back McKnight is. Powell, we will see. Bell leaving was a foregone conclusion when we signed him, I'd have liked to keep Landry, but there will be plenty of veteran safety help available for less than 6 mil plus the injury risk.
agree ... very happy with the moves / lack of moves by the new GM ... over the next couple days/weeks he'll sign some average-above average players to cap friendly deals. let's see if he can get revis trade worked out before the million $$$ bonus payout (think that was on 3/17 ... with a glass of green beer!) ... and what return on investment he can get 2013 will be about finding who can contribute to our team moving forward from 2014 I like Rex but no reason to do anything with his contract/status until after the season ... unless a miracle happens our W-L record will be bad next season ... but how do the young players develop? how does he get the free agents to gel? Will MM help get the O going in the right direction? ... more than simple W-L record should determine his future after 2013. Finally ... agree, Serby is a total d-bag ... that article was just meant to inflame JET fans.. ljr
I could be completely wrong but I think Idzik has a plan and he's sticking to it which didn't always seem to be the case. I respect that. This year is going to be ugly to watch for sure but if we're a 3 or 4 win team then we'll have a pretty high pick. If the rumours about Revis for TBays first rounder next year then that's two firsts we'll have next year. I think he has realized that the best solution to the QB spot is to cut Sanchez next year when the cap impact isn't as bad and to draft a QB. If we're a top 3 pick next year that should place us in a good spot to get a QB that can help us for the long term. All this stuff about bringing in competition for Sanchez is for two reasons: 1) so fans (and PSL holders) don't feel like the team is giving up so there is a reason to watch and go to the games 2) so when Sanchez blows next year and the end up cutting him nobody can criticize them (although I don't know if anyone would anyway) because they gave him all these opportunities and he failed to capitalize
The way Idzy has operated so far only makes it more puzzling why Rex is still here. Rex had a hand in assembling the roster that he is purging right now, so why keep one of the guys that presided over this disaster. I think Woody made a huge mistake retaining Rex. I like Rex, maybe he'll prove the naysayers wrong and he can develop a young team into 'his' guys. Right now though it looks like a very questionable decision...
this article is bullshit. if they would have been active the last 3days and overpaid for a player,serby would have wrote about the s.o.j. that still feel the need to make a splash and obviously woody is making decisions to keep the team on the back page. the only thing he is right about is the double standard for the jets and giants. but that comes with winning so it is what it is. j.idz is doing great. let the market settle down and sign a bunch of 25-26 y.o. vets to compete and fill out the depth chart.build this team with a young core and players will emerge
You know---if guys do not want to come here (are you listening, Rex?)-- the worst thing the Jets could do would be to overpay to get them here. That is how you get into salary cap hell. Just draft well, sign the best guys you can, and do the same next year. You may wake up one morning good. Overpaying is never the answer.
Exactly, I look at it this way. Yes you can turn the corner very quickly in the NFL but the window once you do is very small. The Jets turned the corner with a highly paid veteran roster. They didn't win the SB and now the team is paying for it. Throw in Sanchez hasn't developed into a true franchise QB so there is no sense in going out and throwing a ton of money at guys when you have no quality at the skill positions. This team needs to build through the draft something Tanny didn't once Mangini was gone. It might be painful to watch but I think if Idzik has any clue what he is doing hopefully the suffering this season turns into a quality young team with talent found in the draft and not signed to huge contracts.
Idzik is doing this the right way. I'm so far very happy with his approach. The key will be the second wave of FA. Not expecting too much activity, but should see some signings.
That is on woody. Woody is just a putz. I am happy he is leaving Idzik alone as much as he is, but he is a tool. I cannot stand looking at or listening to him. Les Nessman.
I know we really do have a shot, But letting Landry go wasnt a smart move because now we have no safteys among other things that we dont have
QFT. It's funny that Serby wrote that big free agent splashes aren't Big Blue's way because, sure as shit, he'd have done exactly as you wrote, Flajetfan, and roasted the Jets for signing people. Like many others on this board, I hope that a more measured approach is the new Jets' way. Built through the draft and, when the team is in striking distance, sign value pieces to get over the hump (see Seattle).
I definitely hear your point about losing both starting safeties from last season. I'm sure that the FO would have loved to have kept Landry, just not at the $6 million per year rate he got from the Colts. Given our team's financial situation, I can't fault them for not biting. I know it's no consolation, but there appears to be very good value at both safety positions in the middle rounds of this year's draft. And there's a number of safeties who are available and may be less expensive than Landry.
He is doing good! Not sure why he wont take next year 1 for revis....IMO next year draft is better talent they this year!
Everybody seems to be forgetting that Woody said pretty clearly to all of us that Rex wasn't going anywhere. The idea that Rex is on a very short leash this year unless the Jets do well on the field next year is probably the polar opposite of the reality in place. Rex is likely going to coach the Jets in 2014 barring a total collapse next season. That makes the moves that Idzik and the personnel department have to make this year unencumbered by the need to "save" Rex next year or alternately force him out. It's the rational approach to where the Jets find themselves at this point. People are going to blow off steam a lot over the next few months as the opening phases of the rebuild are executed. It would be nice if they gave Woody the credit for what he actually said when they're about the business of using him for target practice in blowing off that steam.
When we all headed into this off season, the one thing I thought the Jets had to do was retain either Bell or Landry. Now I understand those who say Landry was not worth what he got from the Colts. But that's not the point. With E Smith also gone, the key development here was Bell signing with the Cards. Well, I don't know if the Jets made any effort to keep Bell, but now all three of those guys are gone? It's not like the bench at safety is a bunch of up and comers, either. So now on top of both OG's, at least on DE, another RB, and even assuming the Jets need not make moves at wideout, TE and RT, and might have to patch together an LB corps with Harris, MacIntyre, Davis and Mauga (wtf?), they also need to field TWO starting safeties??? And maybe I shouldn't have left consideration of the DL to saying one DE is needed, either. Who here has great confidence in Ellis starting a whole year there? Again, as with Landry, I get the people saying DeVito is probably not worth what KC gave him. But was there an effort made to keep him, either? I suppose it is still possible that Pouha comes back, but he only played like a quarter of the snaps last year, so he's far from the solid presence he was just a brief time ago. In short, the Jets probably need TWO DE's as well. And is the plan to have Bilal Powell be the starting RB, sharing the job with McKnight? Add up the holes, even accepting mediocrity at LB (which has been the weakest part of the D, anyway), TE and RT, more growing pains with Hill, and don't forget that Qb will still be a position amounting to a huge liability, and we have the following positions that require the Jets to go out and get starters or key backups at the following positions: Both OG's RB Both DE's Both safeties I don't see them filling all those positions with high draft picks, to state the obvious. And they are not making moves in FA. Add it all up, and this is not a rebuilding season. This is a forfeit season.
This is the first really interesting FA season in a long time. We're watching a thinking man's chess match unfold. As fans we've been spoiled by Tanny chasing high profile FAs for so many years (Jenks, Favre, Thomlison, Jason Taylor, Aso, Manning, Tebow, and a few more). All we had to do was sit back and dream the dream. But now we're seeing how it should be done under very difficult circumstances. It has been and will be a whole new learning experience for all of us.
